Date:         Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:09:34 -0400
Reply-To:     Marc Perdue <mcperdue@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Marc Perdue <mcperdue@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: OT & NVC & Pre-Friday: Palcohol?
In-Reply-To:  <0F3C95FD-66B1-46D8-B319-FCF2419D63CC@gmail.com>
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Powdered alcohol has been around as a concept, if not as an approved
product, since 1974. It's real. One half cup of powder equals one drink.
Snorting it would ruin you one way or another, not so much for the amount
of alcohol, though it would go to your bloodstream really fast, but because
inhaling that volume of powder just destroys your sinuses.

The labels have been approved. The Palcohol itself was mistakenly approved
and that approval has been withdrawn.

The concept was intended for hikers, as it would reduce the weight they had
to carry, but the concept is flawed because you'd have to have liquid
somewhere along the line to mix it with.

Then there's the taste issue, which most seem to think would kill the
concept, because most of us Vanagon drivers who like to drink are kinda
picky about the taste of our booze. You could, however, mix it with potable
water from the water tank in your van, assuming your pump is working. Mine
isn't either, Dave.

So, when I go camping at music festivals, I'll stick to my bottle of
Jameson's, thank you.
Marc Perdue


On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:00 PM, TCollins <tonycollin@gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the biggest negative issues with this product is its portability
> and ability to be hidden. Mainly by those that are not of legal age it that
> may instead of reconstitute it in to a liquid for just simply snort it.
> Snorting this substance would cause immediate intoxication.
>
> Teens and young and not so young adults have always experimented with
> quicker ways to obtain a buzz. Google up quick ways to get a buzz you may
> see things like eye balling or others like it.
>
> Another issue that is feared it's the possibility of it being "sprinkled"
> in food items or liquids of others with nefarious agendas.
>
> Please, take all of that with a some caution.
>
> What I have read was that the product continued to be approved but that
> the labels were the issues. All the other things apply. A reapplication
> process would have to be initiated and it would take some time for these to
> reemerge.
>
> Hope this helps muddle things further.
>
> T.
>
>
> > On Apr 24, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > Years ago the Felder Enterprises Consumables Division put some nice Cab
> on
> > the stove and simmered it to almost a solid, figuring I could backpack
> with
> > the gel and some PGA and reconstitute it into wine with local water
> > filtered along the trail. Turned out that endeavor, like so many Vanagon
> > projects, was way more complex than originally thought. I hope these
> > Palcohol guys can nail it.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Rocket J Squirrel <
> > camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, if it's a Real Thing then I will be (a) hornswoggled, and (b)
> >> pleased.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
> >> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
> >> Bend, Ore.
> >>
> >>> On 04/24/2014 04:42 PM, Rob wrote:
> >>>
> >>> At  4/24/2014 05:55 PM,Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Please forgive -- this is best suited for Friday but I won't be able
> to
> >>>> post on Friday and I have a burnin' desire.
> >>>>
> >>>> Unless you've been living on Mars this past week, you've heard about
> >>>> "Palcohol" <http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/21/palcohol/> purported
> to
> >>>> be "Powdered Alcohol."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A 10 second search with google turned this up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_powder
> >>>
> >>>>> According to food chemist Udo Pollmer of the European Institute of
> >>> Food and Nutrition Sciences in Munich, alcohol can be absorbed in
> >>> cyclodextrins, a sugar derivate. In this way, encapsuled in small
> >>> capsules, the fluid can be handled as a powder. The cyclodextrins can
> >>> absorb an estimated 60 percent of their own weight in alcohol.[1] A US
> >>> patent was registered for the process as early as 1974.[2]<<
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rob
> >>> vwrobb@gmail.com
> >>> Volkswagen Enthusiast ....
> >>
>