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Date:         Tue, 6 May 2014 18:01:00 -0700
Reply-To:     Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      !RE: Fire Wall
Comments: To: Gnarlodious <gnarlodious@GMAIL.COM>
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The longevity of the "sticker" will be in direct proportion to how clean the "stickee" is! Clean the you know what out of the surface.

Start with pressure washing and scraping, then do a solvent clean up, and finish with an acetone or lacquer thinner wipe down. Then spray the whole area with Rustoleum primer or some other rust proofing paint.

Wear a solvent respirator and be outdoors well away from ignition sources (and your house/garage)!

I like your idea, keep us posted.

Stuart

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Gnarlodious Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 10:18 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Fire Wall

This is supposed to be a sound barrier for diesel engine compartments having sticky backing and a bonded 4 mil mylar exposed surface. It should handle the abusive environment above my transmission in addition to repelling dirt which the current stuff does the opposite of. The existing mats have a springy rod retaining system that I could reuse, but I've heard that compressing acoustic foam cancels the effect. I'll keep my eye on it through the summer to make sure gravity is not having its way.

I'm just aware that I may need to remove my transmission to do a proper installation of the sheets.

-- Gnarlie

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote: > Looks like a good solution. You need weight to dampen noise, and > spray foam doesn't weigh anything. You might consider some sort of > fastener if you can figure out how. Anything facing down will tend to pull off sooner or later. > > Stuart > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > Behalf Of Gnarlodious > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 9:18 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Fire Wall > > OK, I'm not sure why you're so horrified at the polyurethane foam but > I'll take you seriously. I figure I need 34x66 inches replace the > sagging stuff, so I ordered 2 sheets: > http://www.supremesupplycompany.com/sound.htm > Tufcote Noise Barrier/Absorber #104-E > Size 32x36 per sheet @ $89 per sheet + UPS Spoke with Ben > > Will give a report when I get it installed. > > -- Gnarlie > http://Gnarlodious.com/Vanagon > > > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Michael <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote: >> Yes . NEVER use spray foam on any vehicle that you care about. >> >> Mike B. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 3, 2014, at 13:37, Gnarlodious <gnarlodious@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>> >>> I am getting ready to do that too, rip out all that dangling stuff >>> and > put modern stuff it. Because there is ample space under there I am > hoping to put a thicker foamy insulating material, not necessarily > spray-can stuff because its wasteful and expensive. Spray-on > polyurethane foam may be the best solution, but I have only seen it > applied with a wand from a running machine on a truck. The spray-on > stuff is more dense and durable than the can-pressurized stuff, and > normally applied to the ceiling of industrial buildings. The job needs > to be done while the transaxle is out for best results, which means you order the truck go come and do it on location. >>> >>> Any thoughts? >>> >>> -- Gnarlie >>> http://Gnarlodious.com >>> >>> >>>> On May 3, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>>> >>>> And possibly reduce the amount of dust that falls into your face while >>>> wrenching under area above the transmission! ;) >>>> >>>> Dynamat et al would hold less dirt-dust? >>>> >>>> Neil. >>>> >>>>> On 5/3/14, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> .... Any of them better than that factory mess. Shop online and >>>>> you will find more reasonable prices. Done right you can also >>>>> reduce some of the rust causing moisture issues. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Neil n >>>> >>>> Blog: tubaneil.blogspot.ca >>>> >>>> '88 Westy http://tinyurl.com/c8rlw6p >>>> >>>> '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ >>>> >>>> Vanagon VAG *Gas* inline-VR Engine Swap Group: >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/d7gd5ej >


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