Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 17:23:19 -0400
Reply-To: Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Where do you get your coolant?
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Coolant for those who can afford the 80K Gowesty rigs....
http://www.evanscooling.com/products/coolants/
Jason
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
> So, that appears to be the regular (not diluted, not 50/50, but straight
> stuff) PEL coolant. The answer to the FAQ on the Prestone web site was
> probably just to plug the diluted stuff, since they make more money selling
> water than they do selling coolant.
>
> mcneely
>
> ---- OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> > To All
> >
> > According to the Prestone Extended Life (YellowBottle) Label it
> is ~ Silicate, Phosphate, Borate and Nitrite Free ~ While these days I
> prefer to use Zerex Coolant I have
> >
> > put many a mile on my H2OBoxers with Prestone E'L' keeping them Cool ~ I
> always Mix with Distilled H2O ~ Here is a link with some Pics of the
> BottleLabel ~
> >
> >
> http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generation-maxima-1995-1999/647083-prestone-phosphate-free.html
> >
> >
> > On 16 May , 2014, at 8:51 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
> >
> >
> > > ---- Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM> wrote:
> > >> Craig, misinformation here. Green coloured Prestone is NOT
> Phosphate free, at least not here in Canada. The only Prestone that is
> phosphate free is the Long Life one, that’s Dex-Cool compatible in the
> silver jug. Look on the back for the list of ingredients.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On May 16, 2014, at 12:00 AM, Automatic digest processor <
> LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Nothing wrong with regular old Prestone. It's green. It's cheap. It
> supposed=
> > >>> ly phosphate free. And you're going to change it due to leaks and
> repairs ev=
> > >>> ery two years anyway.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmmm ..... . Hard to know what is going on here. I found this on
> Prestone's web site:
> > >
> > > "Q: Does Prestone® Antifreeze/Coolant contain phosphates?
> > > A: Some European automobile manufacturers request that a
> phosphate-free antifreeze be used in their vehicles. This issue is related
> to the extremely high mineral content of the water in Europe. If you were
> to mix an antifreeze that contained phosphates with the type of water they
> have in Europe, it may produce deposits that can settle in the cooling
> system and promote corrosion. However, in North America we do not have this
> type of water problem. Typical North American coolants have contained
> phosphates (which is part of the corrosion inhibitor package) for many
> years. Therefore, the question of phosphates is a non-issue here in North
> America. Prestone® Antifreeze/Coolant is completely safe for use in both
> foreign and domestic vehicles. For those consumers who would feel more
> comfortable using a phosphate-free antifreeze, our Prestone® LongLife®
> Premixed Antifreeze/Coolant and Prestone® Dex-Cool® Premixed LongLife®
> Antifreeze/ Coolant formula’s are phosphate, silicate, and borate free.
> These coolants use a special chemistry and technology that extends the life
> of the corrosion inhibitor package so that it lasts for five years or
> 240,000 kms (whichever comes first), and is safe for all cars and light
> trucks (old or new). Prestone® Dex-Cool® Premixed LongLife® Antifreeze/
> Coolant has been approved by General Motors under their DEX-COOL®
> specifications and is compatible with other DEX-COOL® approved coolants.
> > > * DEX-COOL® is a registered trademark of General Motors Corporation."
> > >
> > > http://prestone.com/products/antifreeze_coolant/product_list
> > >
> > >
> > > The product mentioned in the answer to the question is shown in a
> yellow bottle. Whether it is a diluted form of the Prestone Extended Life
> Antifreeze/Coolant also in a yellow bottle is not clear, as is whether that
> product is phosphate free (based on product descriptions on the Preston web
> site). I would not trust any product to be phosphate free unless the
> manufacturer made the claim that it was in print.
> > >
> > > As to there being high phospate waters in Europe but not in the U.S.,
> that is simply not true. There are lots of water sources in the U.S. that
> are high phosphate, especially ones that receive agricultural or urban
> runoff. Most watersheds receive both.
> > >
> > > mcneely
>
> --
> David McNeely
>
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