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Date:         Fri, 16 May 2014 17:23:19 -0400
Reply-To:     Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Where do you get your coolant?
Comments: To: mcneely4@cox.net
In-Reply-To:  <20140516152505.ZKOGW.668142.imail@eastrmwml303>
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Coolant for those who can afford the 80K Gowesty rigs....

http://www.evanscooling.com/products/coolants/

Jason

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:

> So, that appears to be the regular (not diluted, not 50/50, but straight > stuff) PEL coolant. The answer to the FAQ on the Prestone web site was > probably just to plug the diluted stuff, since they make more money selling > water than they do selling coolant. > > mcneely > > ---- OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET> wrote: > > To All > > > > According to the Prestone Extended Life (YellowBottle) Label it > is ~ Silicate, Phosphate, Borate and Nitrite Free ~ While these days I > prefer to use Zerex Coolant I have > > > > put many a mile on my H2OBoxers with Prestone E'L' keeping them Cool ~ I > always Mix with Distilled H2O ~ Here is a link with some Pics of the > BottleLabel ~ > > > > > http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generation-maxima-1995-1999/647083-prestone-phosphate-free.html > > > > > > On 16 May , 2014, at 8:51 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote: > > > > > > > ---- Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM> wrote: > > >> Craig, misinformation here. Green coloured Prestone is NOT > Phosphate free, at least not here in Canada. The only Prestone that is > phosphate free is the Long Life one, that’s Dex-Cool compatible in the > silver jug. Look on the back for the list of ingredients. > > >> > > >> > > >> On May 16, 2014, at 12:00 AM, Automatic digest processor < > LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Nothing wrong with regular old Prestone. It's green. It's cheap. It > supposed= > > >>> ly phosphate free. And you're going to change it due to leaks and > repairs ev= > > >>> ery two years anyway. > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hmmm ..... . Hard to know what is going on here. I found this on > Prestone's web site: > > > > > > "Q: Does Prestone® Antifreeze/Coolant contain phosphates? > > > A: Some European automobile manufacturers request that a > phosphate-free antifreeze be used in their vehicles. This issue is related > to the extremely high mineral content of the water in Europe. If you were > to mix an antifreeze that contained phosphates with the type of water they > have in Europe, it may produce deposits that can settle in the cooling > system and promote corrosion. However, in North America we do not have this > type of water problem. Typical North American coolants have contained > phosphates (which is part of the corrosion inhibitor package) for many > years. Therefore, the question of phosphates is a non-issue here in North > America. Prestone® Antifreeze/Coolant is completely safe for use in both > foreign and domestic vehicles. For those consumers who would feel more > comfortable using a phosphate-free antifreeze, our Prestone® LongLife® > Premixed Antifreeze/Coolant and Prestone® Dex-Cool® Premixed LongLife® > Antifreeze/ Coolant formula’s are phosphate, silicate, and borate free. > These coolants use a special chemistry and technology that extends the life > of the corrosion inhibitor package so that it lasts for five years or > 240,000 kms (whichever comes first), and is safe for all cars and light > trucks (old or new). Prestone® Dex-Cool® Premixed LongLife® Antifreeze/ > Coolant has been approved by General Motors under their DEX-COOL® > specifications and is compatible with other DEX-COOL® approved coolants. > > > * DEX-COOL® is a registered trademark of General Motors Corporation." > > > > > > http://prestone.com/products/antifreeze_coolant/product_list > > > > > > > > > The product mentioned in the answer to the question is shown in a > yellow bottle. Whether it is a diluted form of the Prestone Extended Life > Antifreeze/Coolant also in a yellow bottle is not clear, as is whether that > product is phosphate free (based on product descriptions on the Preston web > site). I would not trust any product to be phosphate free unless the > manufacturer made the claim that it was in print. > > > > > > As to there being high phospate waters in Europe but not in the U.S., > that is simply not true. There are lots of water sources in the U.S. that > are high phosphate, especially ones that receive agricultural or urban > runoff. Most watersheds receive both. > > > > > > mcneely > > -- > David McNeely >


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