Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 10:10:14 -0700
Reply-To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Where do you get your coolant?
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Every two years, but that recommendation is based on 15,000 miles per year
driven.
Stuart
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From: John Schwartz [mailto:pa38112@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:53 AM
To: 'Stuart MacMillan'; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: RE: Where do you get your coolant?
You mean biennial for the coolant replacement requirement????
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Stuart MacMillan
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:29 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Where do you get your coolant?
According to everything I've read, yes you can as long as they are all
phosphate free. As I mentioned before, Go Westy agrees, and they warrant
their remanufactured engines for 48 months. They also require bi-annual
coolant changes to keep the warranty in force.
Just be sure to stick with ethylene glycol based antifreeze, don't mix the
propylene glycol versions (less toxic, but doesn't transfer heat quite as
well).
If you want to extend the life of standard coolant No-Rosion is a good
product. I've used it for years in my MGBs and Vanagons.
http://www.no-rosion.com/norosioncoolant.htm
They also have a test kit so you can tell when you need to change your
coolant.
Stuart
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Jeff Palmer
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:26 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Where do you get your coolant?
I've been using VW Blue Gold as long as I've owned the van but am open to
equivalents. Can i top up my van with Xerex for example or do i have to
completely flush and refill with the new coolant?
Thanks
Jeff
On 2014-05-17, at 8:34 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
> You are welcome. Another poster followed up with a photo of the
> bottle
label from the yellow bottle PEL (regular, not diluted). It states to be
phosphate free. That is true of Zerex long life coolant also. I use Zerex,
which states on the bottle to be phosphate free, and it is yellow.
>
> ---- Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM> wrote:
>> McNeely, thanks for this VERY good information !
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> On May 16, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Automatic digest processor
<LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmm ..... . Hard to know what is going on here. I found this on
Prestone=
>>> 's web site:
>>>
>>> "Q: Does Prestone=C2=AE Antifreeze/Coolant contain phosphates?
>>> A: Some European automobile manufacturers request that a
>>> phosphate-free
ant=
>>> ifreeze be used in their vehicles. This issue is related to the
extremely h=
>>> igh mineral content of the water in Europe. If you were to mix an
antifreez=
>>> e that contained phosphates with the type of water they have in
>>> Europe,
it =
>>> may produce deposits that can settle in the cooling system and
>>> promote
corr=
>>> osion. However, in North America we do not have this type of water
problem.=
>>> Typical North American coolants have contained phosphates (which is
>>> part
o=
>>> f the corrosion inhibitor package) for many years. Therefore, the
question =
>>> of phosphates is a non-issue here in North America. Prestone=C2=AE
Antifree=
>>> ze/Coolant is completely safe for use in both foreign and domestic
vehicles=
>>> . For those consumers who would feel more comfortable using a
phosphate-fre=
>>> e antifreeze, our Prestone=C2=AE LongLife=C2=AE Premixed
Antifreeze/Coolant=
>>> and Prestone=C2=AE Dex-Cool=C2=AE Premixed LongLife=C2=AE
>>> Antifreeze/
Cool=
>>> ant formula=E2=80=99s are phosphate, silicate, and borate free.
>>> These
coola=
>>> nts use a special chemistry and technology that extends the life of
>>> the
cor=
>>> rosion inhibitor package so that it lasts for five years or 240,000
>>> kms
(wh=
>>> ichever comes first), and is safe for all cars and light trucks (old
>>> or
new=
>>> ). Prestone=C2=AE Dex-Cool=C2=AE Premixed LongLife=C2=AE
>>> Antifreeze/
Coola=
>>> nt has been approved by General Motors under their DEX-COOL=C2=AE
specifica=
>>> tions and is compatible with other DEX-COOL=C2=AE approved coolants.
>>> * DEX-COOL=C2=AE is a registered trademark of General Motors
Corporation."
>>>
>>> http://prestone.com/products/antifreeze_coolant/product_list
>>>
>>>
>>> The product mentioned in the answer to the question is shown in a
>>> yellow
bo=
>>> ttle. Whether it is a diluted form of the Prestone Extended Life
Antifreez=
>>> e/Coolant also in a yellow bottle is not clear, as is whether that
product =
>>> is phosphate free (based on product descriptions on the Preston web
site). =
>>> I would not trust any product to be phosphate free unless the
manufacturer=
>>> made the claim that it was in print.
>>>
>>> As to there being high phospate waters in Europe but not in the
>>> U.S.,
that =
>>> is simply not true. There are lots of water sources in the U.S.
>>> that
are h=
>>> igh phosphate, especially ones that receive agricultural or urban
runoff. =
>>> Most watersheds receive both.
>>>
>>> mcneely
>
> --
> David McNeely
>
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