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Date:         Thu, 22 May 2014 10:10:14 -0700
Reply-To:     Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Where do you get your coolant?
Comments: To: John Schwartz <pa38112@roadrunner.com>
In-Reply-To:  <000201cf75de$4072f960$c158ec20$@roadrunner.com>
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Every two years, but that recommendation is based on 15,000 miles per year driven.

Stuart

-----Original Message----- From: John Schwartz [mailto:pa38112@roadrunner.com] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:53 AM To: 'Stuart MacMillan'; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: RE: Where do you get your coolant?

You mean biennial for the coolant replacement requirement????

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Stuart MacMillan Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:29 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Where do you get your coolant?

According to everything I've read, yes you can as long as they are all phosphate free. As I mentioned before, Go Westy agrees, and they warrant their remanufactured engines for 48 months. They also require bi-annual coolant changes to keep the warranty in force.

Just be sure to stick with ethylene glycol based antifreeze, don't mix the propylene glycol versions (less toxic, but doesn't transfer heat quite as well).

If you want to extend the life of standard coolant No-Rosion is a good product. I've used it for years in my MGBs and Vanagons. http://www.no-rosion.com/norosioncoolant.htm

They also have a test kit so you can tell when you need to change your coolant.

Stuart

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Palmer Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:26 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Where do you get your coolant?

I've been using VW Blue Gold as long as I've owned the van but am open to equivalents. Can i top up my van with Xerex for example or do i have to completely flush and refill with the new coolant?

Thanks Jeff

On 2014-05-17, at 8:34 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:

> You are welcome. Another poster followed up with a photo of the > bottle label from the yellow bottle PEL (regular, not diluted). It states to be phosphate free. That is true of Zerex long life coolant also. I use Zerex, which states on the bottle to be phosphate free, and it is yellow. > > ---- Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM> wrote: >> McNeely, thanks for this VERY good information ! >> >> Frank >> >> >> On May 16, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> wrote: >> >>> Hmmm ..... . Hard to know what is going on here. I found this on Prestone= >>> 's web site: >>> >>> "Q: Does Prestone=C2=AE Antifreeze/Coolant contain phosphates? >>> A: Some European automobile manufacturers request that a >>> phosphate-free ant= >>> ifreeze be used in their vehicles. This issue is related to the extremely h= >>> igh mineral content of the water in Europe. If you were to mix an antifreez= >>> e that contained phosphates with the type of water they have in >>> Europe, it = >>> may produce deposits that can settle in the cooling system and >>> promote corr= >>> osion. However, in North America we do not have this type of water problem.= >>> Typical North American coolants have contained phosphates (which is >>> part o= >>> f the corrosion inhibitor package) for many years. Therefore, the question = >>> of phosphates is a non-issue here in North America. Prestone=C2=AE Antifree= >>> ze/Coolant is completely safe for use in both foreign and domestic vehicles= >>> . For those consumers who would feel more comfortable using a phosphate-fre= >>> e antifreeze, our Prestone=C2=AE LongLife=C2=AE Premixed Antifreeze/Coolant= >>> and Prestone=C2=AE Dex-Cool=C2=AE Premixed LongLife=C2=AE >>> Antifreeze/ Cool= >>> ant formula=E2=80=99s are phosphate, silicate, and borate free. >>> These coola= >>> nts use a special chemistry and technology that extends the life of >>> the cor= >>> rosion inhibitor package so that it lasts for five years or 240,000 >>> kms (wh= >>> ichever comes first), and is safe for all cars and light trucks (old >>> or new= >>> ). Prestone=C2=AE Dex-Cool=C2=AE Premixed LongLife=C2=AE >>> Antifreeze/ Coola= >>> nt has been approved by General Motors under their DEX-COOL=C2=AE specifica= >>> tions and is compatible with other DEX-COOL=C2=AE approved coolants. >>> * DEX-COOL=C2=AE is a registered trademark of General Motors Corporation." >>> >>> http://prestone.com/products/antifreeze_coolant/product_list >>> >>> >>> The product mentioned in the answer to the question is shown in a >>> yellow bo= >>> ttle. Whether it is a diluted form of the Prestone Extended Life Antifreez= >>> e/Coolant also in a yellow bottle is not clear, as is whether that product = >>> is phosphate free (based on product descriptions on the Preston web site). = >>> I would not trust any product to be phosphate free unless the manufacturer= >>> made the claim that it was in print. >>> >>> As to there being high phospate waters in Europe but not in the >>> U.S., that = >>> is simply not true. There are lots of water sources in the U.S. >>> that are h= >>> igh phosphate, especially ones that receive agricultural or urban runoff. = >>> Most watersheds receive both. >>> >>> mcneely > > -- > David McNeely >


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