Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 19:03:32 -1000
Reply-To: "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Organization: Cosmic Reminders
Subject: Re: Coolant Pump Etc. Sealant. Factory?
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Naturally, fasterners should be made of some anti-corrosion material,
or at least treated/cocated, like galvanized.
Boats are a particular case of course ..
esp. where salt water is involved,
which is why old wooden boats use bronze fastners often ..
bronze does last pretty well.
I use 'all screws' myself these days in land-bound wood construction,
and ..nails do have their purpose.
good nails....galvanized ones offer the most holding power for the speed
of installation for the cost of materilas.
I just pulled out some galvanized nails on white pine siding on a 3 hr
old round 3l level house in Hawaii ..
where moisture, mold, etc. can be a constant problem.
I was amazed at the holding power of those nails !
not easy to get out at all...
I was just having the above conversation about the advantages of nails (
he uses a nail gun for even more speed ...I doubt I ever will though ) ...
there was 'some old cabin' here before this place...
much of it was torn down and tossed in the jungle ...
it's so wet here, and since the 'ainna' ( land ) isn't very old, being
just a couple hundred years old lava flow at most ..
there's no soil really ..
there are no streams or creeks either as the super abundant rain just
soaks through the very porous lava..
and 25 yr old old growth boards , many of them ...not rotted at all
really ...
and ...I mention this because, I recovered some square nails out of that
old building material..
now when was the last time tapered square nails were used in home
construction ???
and talk about holding power !
those started when nails were made by hand, like by a blacksmith and not
spit out by a machine as today.
I also find this quite fascinating..
about wood and water ..
500 years ago in England, for their major ship timbers ( which could be
old growth oak 12 X 10 inches and up to 30 feet long ) ...
they soaked thatt oak in salt water for up to 11 years before using it
in ship building.
there are even ( if anyone reads Wooden Boat Magazine ) wooden ships of
around 200 yrs age that have never been entirely rebuilt, just
re-fastened and patched as needed .
They don't build 'em like they used to !
lol.
scott
On 5/30/2014 4:13 PM, Don Hanson wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 5:28 PM, SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) <
> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
>> which is why ALL screws , esp. cooling system screws, should be
>> installed with something on them..
>> I find Permatex High Tack gasket goop to be hyper perfect .
>> prevents corrosion, sticks 'em in there ...
>> ( anti-vibration ) ..
>> like it's a mortal sin to put a screw into a housing or block dry.
>>
>> Since it's still Friday, I'll add that screws almost anywhere, screws
> that will see any weather or immersion, those should have some Goo...Each
> and every one. I've been doing a lot of 'pick-up' carpentry work lately,
> repairing and replacing pieces of houses that were tossed together back in
> the real estate boom... Not ten years old...many have their cheap Home
> Depot screws already rusted away with rotting material all around. A
> simple dab of silicone would have totally prevented this....and that
> 'composite' building material that is supposed to be 'impervious' to
> weather? Ha! If you believe that, I have a bridge I'd sell you....
>
> Boats: Every single fastener in a boat should be gooed with something
> fiberglass or wood.......I also restored some wooden river dories, "drift
> boats" built by very reputable Northwest names....but they were all
> 'self-taught' and nobody ever clued them in to using bedding compound (a
> pre-silicone pre-poly____ substance that all boatbuilders of old are
> familiar with). As a result, many of these fine old boats are beyond
> saving due to rusted away screws and bolts, leaving holes in the wooden
> hulls that simply rots them away.
>
> Motos....I always use at least blue locktite on all my motorcycle nuts
> and bolts...Having something come loose while lapping a racetrack at speed
> or in the middle lane of an interstate surrounded by soccer moms and semi
> trucks....not a good thing...
>
