Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 21:11:24 -0500
Reply-To: JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
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From: JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Diesel $$ RE: 88 GL - Failure to Start - but now it does!!
Hip Hip Huzzah!!
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No doubt!
John
On 6/13/2014 8:37 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
> I think a turbo prop could be much more forgiving than a piston engine
> although I have no experience with them. I have seen diesels run on
> gasoline/fuel oil mixtures and the noises can be quite amazing just before
> the final bang. I have also seen gas engines accidentally get Diesel. That
> is a lot less painful.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> JRodgers
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:32 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Diesel $$ RE: 88 GL - Failure to Start - but now it does!! Hip
> Hip Huzzah!!
>
> Just a side note - I used to fly Short Bros. Skyvans which had
> Garrett-Air-research Turboprop engines - essentially a jet engine with a
> gearbox and a propeller. They burned jet fuel - a high grade diesel fuel. In
> Alaska, in winter, we switched to Arctic Diesel, basically a very clean fuel
> oil, and the engines just ran along, happy as clams in sand. But in summer -
> we would switch back to Jet fuel. In an EMERGENCY situation when jet or
> arctic diesel was not available, leaded 80/87 aircraft fuel could be run
> through the engines for a certain number of hours - and it wasn't that many
> - after that - the engine fuels systems and certain other components had to
> be taken apart and the engine cleaned thoroughly. It was actually overhaul
> level work, though it was not specified as such.
>
>
> Alternate fuels can be used but with the understanding of what they will do
> to your engine.
>
> John
>
> On 6/13/2014 6:56 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
>> I guessed I missed something along the way. I have never seen diesel
>> instructions promoting the use of gasoline except in small quantities
>> to prevent gelling. I would think kerosene is a much better
>> alternative before gasoline as it won't damage the engine.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf Of KIM BRENNAN
>> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 10:47 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Diesel $$ RE: 88 GL - Failure to Start - but now it
>> does!! Hip Hip Huzzah!!
>>
>> One of the cool things about diesels (at least the older models), are
>> the fueling instructions.
>>
>> aka, if you can't get diesel fuel, you can use gasoline if you can't
>> get gasoline you can use kerosene if you can't get kerosene you can
>> use alcohol etc.
>>
>> (of course the recommendations are to drive more conservatively on the
>> alternate fuels).
>>
>> Most of us, of course, won't be driving in places were that is a concern.
>>
>>
>> On Jun 13, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Ralph Meyermann
>> <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I love mine, well since the AAZ upgrade for more oomph. Minimal
>>> electronic engine components to fail/diagnose.
>>>
>>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ TD Westy
>>> On Jun 13, 2014 12:22 AM, "JRodgers" <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Prol'ly so!
>>>>
>>>> john
>>>>
>>>> On 6/12/2014 11:18 PM, Don Hanson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I bet they still will find a reason to keep us out of electric
>>>>> vehicles
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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