Date:         Fri, 13 Jun 2014 08:35:39 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Diesel $$ RE: 88 GL - Failure to Start - but now it does!!
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You would want to cut the gas/alcohol with some kind of lubricant like
engine oil or ATF.  Years ago, I had an el cheapo MB 220D that I would
partially fill with filtered used engine oil/ATF.  Probably not sustainable
without a high quality centrifugal oil filter and micron filtration setup,
but it did prove that the basic platform will technically function on
pretty much any oily combustible liquid.  Since VW pumps also lubricate
with the fuel they run, I'd be very wary of playing around with fuel
quality, unless in a pinch.


On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> Kim:
>
> You could probably get away with kerosene and peanut oil or vegetable oil,
> but you will do yourself a world of hurt if you were to run gasoline  - or
> gasoline diluted diesel of less than 85-90% diesel - through your engine
> ... particularly if that engine has any form of electronic control {as
> opposed to mechanical}.
>
> The combustion characteristics of gasoline (and alcohol) are significantly
> different than diesel.  In a modern diesel engine, you would probably first
> kill all the sensors of the control systems, but even in an old mechanical
> injection engine, you would experience detonation at the wrong times and
> the engine would take a lot of abuse ... until it quit.
>
>
>
>
> On 13-Jun-2014, at 11:46, KIM BRENNAN wrote:
>
> > One of the cool things about diesels (at least the older models), are
> the fueling instructions…
> >
> > aka, if you can’t get diesel fuel, you can use gasoline
> > if you can’t get gasoline you can use kerosene
> > if you can’t get kerosene you can use alcohol
> > etc.
> >
> > (of course the recommendations are to drive more conservatively on the
> alternate fuels).
> >
> > Most of us, of course, won’t be driving in places were that is a concern.
> >
> >
> > On Jun 13, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Ralph Meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I love mine, well since the AAZ upgrade for more oomph. Minimal
> electronic
> >> engine components to fail/diagnose.
> >>
> >> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ TD Westy
> >> On Jun 13, 2014 12:22 AM, "JRodgers" <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Prol'ly so!
> >>>
> >>> john
> >>>
> >>> On 6/12/2014 11:18 PM, Don Hanson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I bet they still will find a reason to keep us out of
> >>>> electric vehicles
> >>>>
> >>>
>



-- 
Casey