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Date:         Fri, 13 Jun 2014 20:11:57 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 88 GL - Failure to Start - but now it does!! Hip Hip Huzzah!!
              The cost of Diesel Fuel.
Comments: To: Jim Arnott <jrasite@EONI.COM>
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As some of you know I have a Diesel powered motor home. With a 100 gallon tank I get to pick where I get fuel when traveling. I prefer truck stops and in particular the FlyingJ as they tend to be the most RV friendly. Before a trip I go to their web site which posts real time fuel costs for most of their stations. I then plan for the lowest cost to get fuel.

Typically when I fill up I see the Diesel is anywhere from $.40 to $.80 more than regular gasoline. I have seen the difference close to $1.00. This is painful. As for economy my 39' RV does about the same as my first 27' class C motor home with the Ford 460. What has been surprising though is the increased cost of maintenance and repairs. Oil change time is 20 quarts as compared to 7 and filters cost much more. I am getting ready for exhaust #3 and have had to replace 2 injectors and the cooling system including radiator. If it was 2007 and later I would also have to deal with the special fluid for the exhaust.

Luckily the engine is in the back. It is a dirty sooty mess. A few times towing Fun Bus I forgot the close the fresh air intakes. What a mess inside the van.

From folks that have Diesel and turbo diesel Vanagons I think one of the ways they get better fuel economy is that they drive slower. Slower acceleration and lower top or travel speeds. Driving 55 will take ~25-30% less fuel than 70 no matter what you drive.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Jim Arnott Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 7:04 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: 88 GL - Failure to Start - but now it does!! Hip Hip Huzzah!!

The data's all on fuelly.com Go examine it yourself and draw your own conclusions.

FOR ME: Diesel is about 30% better mileage. Diesel's cost in NE Oregon is about a 10% premium.

I didn't say it was scientific. It's just my observed data. I didn't track the distance with anything other than the odometer. Gas rig: about $45 to fill every 200 miles. Diesel: about $50 every 300 miles. Each driven over the exact same route. (Daily commute = 15 miles each way. 5% city, the rest 55 mph.)

Visit fuelly.com The emperical data from many is right there. Draw your own conclusions.

For me, the diesel is significantly cheaper to drive.

Jim

On Jun 12, 2014, at 10:00 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET> wrote:

> Comparing the MPGs of a Westy to that of an AW is In&OfItself a > Grossly Unequal Example & then throwing in 66K Mi's to 12K Mi's makes > the Comparison > > Absolutely Irrelevant ( unless those miles were all RackedUp during a > TimeFrame when the FuelPrices DidNotChange ) ~ > >

> ORR ~ DeanB > > On 12 Jun , 2014, at 9:06 PM, Jim Arnott wrote: > >> Fuel economy. >> >> Diesel Westy average cost over 66k miles: $0.127/mile ABA gas powered >> Adventurewagen average cost over 12k miles: $0.189/mile >


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