Date:         Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:31:36 -0400
Reply-To:     Project Pat <psdooley@VERIZON.NET>
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From:         Project Pat <psdooley@VERIZON.NET>
Subject:      New cars..RE: Friday NVC: European Union switch to diesel not
              working so well
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I don't think calling newer cars "POS" is very fair.  And I don't see them
being replaced every few years as a necessary exercise.
I have seen plenty of examples of 2005 and newer vehicles in the 150-200k
mile range still going strong, still getting good gas mileage and still not
fouling the air.
Yeah, I use to be all for keeping the old iron on road, but do you really
want to ride on a highway full of them?

I paid 16k out the door for my wife's Corolla.  5 years and 90k miles later,
all I have done is oil changes and front brake pads.  Car drives like new
and feels like it could easily do another 100k.


-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Don Hanson
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 1:58 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Friday NVC: European Union switch to diesel not working so well

Just so they don't start going after old cars . . .



Remember "Cash for Clunkers?"

  that took a lot of great old vehicles out of service and got them
replaced with the "new, disposable vehicles"  The car companies would love
to see us all having to drive (and replace every few years with another
$20k POS they could sell us with a finance contract and extended warrantee
for about $50k) only new vehicles...It is not unlikely that they'll figure
out a way to get their Congress to pass a law in that direction and call
it...."good for you"..."Clean air"   Job creators...