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Date:         Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:51:15 -0700
Reply-To:     Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Inconsistent stumbling on resume throttle. Was "vanagon
              syndrome?"
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
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Ok. Thanks. If I recall, Bosch O2 info I'd read said that atmospheric air was referenced via the space between each wire and sensor body. Can't find that info but this mentions similar: ( I think the Vanagons use thimble type O2 ?)

http://www.ratwell.com/mirror/www.forparts.com/Bos02update2.html

"Unheated Thimble-type O2 Sensors (LS) .... Reference outside air for the interior of the thimble comes from a hole in the sensor shell, or through the wiring connector."

("Heated Thimble-type O2 Sensors (LSH)" doesn't mention any of this so I assume it works the same way)

My '88 2.1 has a type of shield that clips onto the O2 body. Could that block a hole in sensor shell?

I don't think this type is used in Vanagons but....

"Heated Planar-type O2 Sensors (LSF) Introduced by Bosch in 1997, ..... Outside reference air is supplied by a small port in the center of the ceramic strip where the 4 electrical wires connect. .... "

From a Bosch website page re: construction of Planar type O2 sensors "Air duct layer. Creates a void for reference air in the finished assembly"

Neil.

On 6/25/14, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I doubt if at the wire connection itself. How it senses the O2 difference is > a mystery.

-- Neil n

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