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Date:         Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:29:34 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 87 Westy, A/C Question
Comments: To: Mister Tom <TomsGroups@SALICOS.COM>
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This is not a problem. In fact being able to develop enough pressure for the AC to turn on the next stage of the radiator fan is a good sign. The pressure developed on the high side of the system is dependent on a number of things. Outside temp, loading from inside temps, and heat from the radiator adding to the AC condenser will effect operating pressures. R-134a does operate at slightly higher pressures than R-12 so increased fan usage is common.

If you are going to service the AC yourself you should get some training, get a certificate for handling refrigerants, and get a gauge set and learn how to use it. There is also a sight glass on the receiver dryer you should use to see the state of the refrigerant system. The whole trick of air conditioning is the latent heat of vaporization. Compressing the refrigerant into the liquid and then letting it absorbs heat and boil off is what it is all about. Excessive high pressures and too much use of the fan at high speed is a sign of the system being over charged. The proper way to charge a 134A system to completely evacuate it and then fill with a specified amount. Typically for 134A you use ~80% of the R12 specification. This is why you need recovery equipment to service air conditioners.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Mister Tom Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 11:05 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: 87 Westy, A/C Question

In my '87 Westy, I put a couple cans of R-134 in a couple of weeks ago. The van mostly sat for three years after being converted from R-12 to 134.

The air now blows cold, OK.

Today temps are in the low 90s and I fired it up to see if it was still blowing cold.

After a few minutes, what I think is the mid-speed radiator fan came on and stayed on.

When I shut the van off, the van ran for just a few seconds and went off.

Does this sound like the high pressure switch, or an outside air temp problem? I've heard that the A/C systems don't like to work when it's really hot out.

Back when I added the refrigerant, temps were in the 80s.

I ran the van for a LONG time and never heard the fan come on.

I do remember the mid-speed fan coming on in the past, in the R-12 days, when the temp was really hot and we were traveling at 70 mph on a hot night.

Thanks for any help.


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