Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:40:53 -0700
Reply-To: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
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From: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: Truma heater, like propex, for cheap but...
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http://www.amazon.com/Converter-Regulator-12v-Step-24v/dp/B0085T97PW
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Alistair
> On Jul 21, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Show me one.
>
> --
> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
> Bend, Ore.
>
>> On 07/21/2014 07:39 PM, Alistair Bell wrote:
>> Just stick in a 12v to 24 v converter.
>>
>> Alistair
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are plenty mornings while camping that I wake up in my Westy and see the thermometer in the teens (F), but I've always been able to warm up with a combination of hot tea, a nice sweater, and my Mr. Heater Buddy.
>>>
>>> I'm sure that having a nice furnace to blow hot air into the cabin would be swell, and the price of this unit is attractive.
>>>
>>> But the 24V thing is a dealbreaker for me. I have two 6-volt golf cart batteries under the bench seat, giving me something like 100 amp-hours at 12 volts. I am not going to put in another 12V battery (or two more 6V batteries) to bump me up to 24V.
>>>
>>> Plus there's the charging. The alternator in the van is set for 12V batteries. As is my solar rig, and my at-home charger.
>>>
>>> Charging a 24-volt setup can be done, but it would require some switching to put the supplemental (furnace) battery in parallel with the other batteries so a 12V charging source could do it.
>>>
>>> So -- put a couple 12V batteries in series (stacked) to operate the furnace; then put them in parallel (side by side) for charging.
>>>
>>> Unless the blower motor in the furnace can be swapped out for a 12V motor, and the circuit board can be made to be happy with the lower voltage, and control units can be found that work at 12V.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
>>> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
>>> Bend, Ore.
>>>
>>>> On 07/21/2014 07:08 PM, Alistair Bell wrote:
>>>> Man that's a good deal. I'd jump on it of they shipped to Canada. I kick myself for not grabbing an older truma from a vanagon in the scrapyard some years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Alistair
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey I picked up one of
>>>>> these:
>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Truma-HEIZG-E24-24V-30-OBT-Propane-Heater-Kit-Bus-Boat-RV-/251564290213?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item3a926670a5&vxp=mtr
>>>>>
>>>>> or: http://goo.gl/BXLVQ4
>>>>>
>>>>> I offered $50 and it was accepted immediately. There are 2 left as of now.
>>>>>
>>>>> It does appear to be brand new stock in it's original box with
>>>>> multilingual original manual. The biggest but is that it is 24V. So
>>>>> you will need to do some electrical contortions to power the device
>>>>> if you want to put it in your Vanagon. It states electric draw of
>>>>> .4A on low and .7A on high. Also, there is no control device. The
>>>>> manual shows 2 different basic controls and mentions a bunch of
>>>>> others that can operate it. The circuit board has empty connectors
>>>>> that they plug into. I need to find or figure out the pin outs for
>>>>> these before I can test it. It seems to be capable of low and high
>>>>> heat output and fan only. There is no exhaust pipe included. So if
>>>>> any of you are up to a challenge this might be a good opportunity.
>>>>> Edward
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