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Date:         Thu, 24 Jul 2014 06:59:03 -0700
Reply-To:     Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Continuing to diagnose rich rough running Digifant ....from
              yesterday
Comments: To: "Vanagons and VW Buses (Bays) with VW inline gas engines"
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This is an inline VW motor but running all the electronics, same as and probably directly from, a Digifant Vanagon...started with an 84 van...now has a 92 Jetta 1.8 liter 8 valve motor in that van with the diesel motor mounts but it is a gas motor..

I am almost sure I have the problem isolated to the 02 sensor..The engine runs OK with that disconnected, plug it back in and after a few seconds, the engine goes full rich and smells like unburned fuel from the exhaust.

Just about a week ago I replaced the old O2 sensor with a new Denso one and it ran perfectly for about 500 miles of highway driving, until yesterday when it began stumbling and losing power. If I switched off and back on (ignition) it cleared up for a few seconds...so I made it home that way and I have been working on finding the cause. I have had some great help so far, but I am still not sure exactly where the problem is...The wires leading to and from the old O2 sensor were brittle and cracked. I spliced in the new one, but the harness from the plug to the ECU, that also had some insulation cracking and brittle wires...Those I have also patched up for now, I will try to find another 'pig tail' to replace that later, but for now I am trying just to isolate the problem so I can get the proper fix done.

Now here is where I am in this process...I have the O2 sensor out again, on my bench. I have access to the plug back into the harness.

I want to bench test the 02 sensor, which I am told can sometimes be bad even though it is almost new...I am told there is a way to put a propane torch on it and get a reading from my voltmeter, but could someone outline this test procedure so an electrical dunce can do it?

I am also told I should have continuity between the signal wire and the ground wire from the ECU harness....I don't see that, ignition on or off...When I put my voltmeter probes on the plug back to the ECU, the one that accepts the plug from the O2 sensor, and I turn the ohm meter to the 20k scale, I see no movement at all from the digital readout....When I probe the two heater terminals, I do see continuity...

Where the signal and ground wire enters that shielded casing, there was some frayed wires that could have been contacting the metalic shielding...I trimmed that back a bit till I have clean wires and I have repaired the fraying. So should I have continuity between the two terminals there at the O2 plug back to the ECU, or am I totally off base here?

OK another thing I changed was my Temp II sender....I have not tried adding that into the diagnostic process yet...Should I? I have been assuming that since the engine runs clean with the O2 sensor unplugged, or after I cycle the ignition off, that the problem must be in the O2 sensor circuit...Should I put the O2 sensor back in and try un plugging the temp 2 sender?...I have some spares that I can substitute also...

Any advice would be greatly appreciated... and thanks in advance

Don Hanson


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