Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:35:56 -0700
Reply-To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: O2 sensors brand quality difference?
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Thanks for the responses everyone. My sensor bung is about 4" down(maybe
12" from the exhaust valves) one of two primary header tubes that emerge
from a dual downpipe cast manifold from the ABA engine...that manifold
bolts right on to the 1.8L head that I am using.
I just ordered a single wire sensor (Bosch) from Van Cafe after
discussing it wiith those guys. Bosch seems to be well regarded as a
brand and the VC boys said they have not had any negative reports from
people who've installed the sensor I bought...for a very reasonable
price. I'll install it and see..It should work, according to the
responses I have.
The 4 wires from my flat plug dissapear into what appears to be a
factory harness...I do not know if the old Digifant Jetta harness was used
or what, but I don't think I will 'fix' that....it is buried and woven
through other components...I would probably be asking for trouble if I
began digging around in that. The wires seem brittle mostly right at the
plugs, which are clipped into a bracet on the head and exposed to heat from
the manifold...I peeled back some of the shielding from the signal and
ground wire they seem fresher where they were 'protected' in the loom.
If the single wire sensor works well, it is in keeping with my own
'style' which is keep it as simple as possible...and one wire is simpler
than three...duh...
Anyhow, thanks for the input everyone....
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I did, so it must have kept working for a very long time. Fortunately, I
> no longer have to go through that.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Haynes [mailto:d23haynes57@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 2:12 PM
> To: 'Stuart MacMillan'; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: RE: O2 sensors brand quality difference?
>
> Unless you test or have emissions inspection the 1.9 doesn't make it
> obvious when the sensors fail. Neither did my 88 Fox.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Stuart MacMillan
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 2:01 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: O2 sensors brand quality difference?
>
> Well, Bosch invented them, and QC of many aftermarket parts is suspect.
> They are used in an extreme heat and vibration application, contain
> platinum (the most expensive noble metal) and quality is of utmost
> importance for performance, so you decide! I ran the original Bosch O2
> sensor on my '84 for 250,000 miles, and my '85 has 140,000 miles on the
> sensor.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Don Hanson
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 9:55 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: O2 sensors brand quality difference?
>
> I am replacing what's almost surely a failing O2 sensor in my inline VW
> motored van and I wanted to see what the List take is on O2 sensors.
> There is a pretty wild difference in cost. But they seem to be simple
> things and every car has a few now a days, not many of them seem to fail
> too often...
> Is it worthwhile spending nearly a hundred bucks for a Bosch to put into
> my van, or can I use a generic autoparts store brand and expect to get a
> few years of service from that and much less cost?
>
> What say ye? and thanks
> Don Hanson
>
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