Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:22:31 -0400
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Tranny musings (or, getting stuck on my lawn)
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Not me!
A transmission at 125K is not a deal. I have an 87 Syncro that I bought with
49K on it with gears falling out of the bottom and the ring and pinion
melted. These transmissions can break, not just wear and at 125K the gear
carrier housing most likely is shot. In addition low mileage 22 year old
vehicles often have a history of extended down time due to some operating
issue. As for hypothesis it can be tested on a lift. You will see the
shifter on the tranny move as the load is changed. For the 5 speed upgrade
the shifter change is easy. All up front.
My suggestions:
Run the trans until it gets noisy or pops out of gear. Repair as needed
unless you can justify upgrades.
Use the money saved from choices above to get real wheels and tires.
Add some good shocks and maybe springs to keep the tires planted. Enjoy the
improvement at all times.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Roy Nicholl
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:40 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Tranny musings (or, getting stuck on my lawn)
You and Dennis are conspiring to perpetuate a divorce in my house?
On 28-Aug-2014, at 05:22, SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) wrote:
> since you are considering options..
> might as well be aware of another choice..
> which is to have your trans rebuilt using a syncro case ...
> that way you can have a 2WD 4 speed trans, with vacuum actuated locking
rear differential ..
> ala stock syncro .
>
>
> On 8/27/2014 5:19 PM, Roy Nicholl wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> While I have not had time to fully hunt down the "new" surging idle issue
on the Hyena ('88 2.1l WBX Westy), I am slowly working through all the
suggestions given here last week and employing a copy of the Digifant Pro
manual.
>>
>> Dennis raised the possibility of the 3/4 slider is moving with input
shaft as the cause of my shifter moving with throttle change. I have since
inspected and checked the torque on the engine and tranny mounts and all
seem within spec. I have also confirmed that I do not get this movement in
first or second gear. Short of dropping the tranny, what other diagnostic
tests can be used to confirm/refute Dennis' rather expensive hypothesis?
>>
>> Assuming Dennis is correct, I have the opportunity to acquire an ACW
tranny from a '91 with only 125K on it. I was thinking about updating that
one then swapping out my current transmission {I also have a line on a
5-spd ASR transmission, but it has a diesel bell housing and would require
finding a 5-spd linkage. However it does have a 40% LSD. It is also
significantly more money).
>>
>> One thing I have notice in my short time as a Vanagon owner is the Hyena
gets stuck much more easily than the '66 Westy. I actually had to use the
TDi Jetta to pull the Vanagon out of the wilderness that is our lawn the
other day. You would think such an undignified event would have shamed the
Hyena {or at least its owner} into not parking on wet surfaces, but less
than days later a similar event occurred climbing out a drive at a friends
cottage. I have started investigating adding a limited slip or torque
biasing differential to the tranny when rebuilt, but the projected cost is
not encouraging .... I have only found one or two offerings (and suspect
they may both be manufactured by the same provider) and the cost is more
than what I would pay for the tranny itself.
>>
>> Could someone with experience with a TBD/LSD weigh in on whether it is
really worth the cost? Are their providers other than peloquin? What
impact on my already pathetic fuel efficiency would it have?
>>
>> Roy
>>
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