Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 18:14:54 -0500
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From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Mystery Mouse
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Don, that poison is warfarin, used also as a drug for reducing blood clotting. The mice bleed to death from their day to day minor injuries. For me, snap traps are more humane. I have no problem with killing them. A slow death? That bothers me. mcneely
---- Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> I know it is not 'green' or particularly politically correct but we use
> that old fashioned mouse bait (Poison) you can get at any supermarket.
> Comes in small boxes that you open and stash in mouse-only accessible
> areas. It is dry pellets in small cardboard containers. The mice eat it
> and go elsewhere to die...at least I have never found any bodies or smelled
> any dead ones.
>
> This could be bad for other scavengers if they ate the dead mouse, I
> suppose....But with all the poison that gets put into our environment,
> often in hundred thousand ton quantities, and the genetically-engineered
> poison-included crops that are killing animals across the world, a few dead
> mice, poisoned by me, who might not make it into a hole to die....I am not
> going to stress over that....
>
> They have caused me a lot of damage over the years...Lately in my shop,
> which is also the other half a barn and it is vacant for a few months each
> winter when we are camping...The mice come in and eat all my tool cords,
> and crap in my cabinets, build nests everywhere and are a health hazard
> there... I put just one of those boxes in a space behind my fridge....Never
> had a mouse problem since that.
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Vanagon <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Moth balls in the van would repel me, too. Good idea for storage, tho. At
> > home I use catch and release traps. This before we got Cat - she's taken
> > over that duty. As for "death throes," they may not actually happen. Except
> > in my imagination, perhaps, while I lie awake in the darkness, staring at
> > the ceiling. Picturing things. In the dark. Alone. At night. In the dark.
> >
> > Gotta lure or chase that critter outta here. Maybe play some Celine Dion
> > on the hi-fi. That'd work on me.
> >
> > Stupid mouse.
> >
> > Sent from camp.
> >
> > > On Sep 14, 2014, at 11:00 AM, <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mr. Squirrel, never in all the mouse trapping I have done have I heard
> > any "death throes" of the snapped victims. The snap is so sudden and
> > instantly fatal that no sound is emitted, in my experience, other than the
> > snap. Now, in the van, you would hear that.
> > >
> > > My wife once bought "humane" mouse traps, sheets of something like
> > tree-tangle foot for insect critters. The directions were to distribute
> > where mice frequent, and collect the critters stuck on the stickum by their
> > feet and dispose of them in the trash. Anything but humane, as the mice
> > live to experience their slow death. They are irrevocably stuck, alive, and
> > unceremoniously dumped in the dumpster. Not to be used by this person
> > again. Old fashioned snap traps are best.
> > >
> > > Another approach is moth balls. They repel mice, too.
> > >
> > > mcneely
> > >
> > > ---- Vanagon <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >> So I'm here on the 5th day of my annual camping trip. One site, a dry
> > camp (no facilities, but also no fee and no neighbors) - a sort of Fall
> > retreat, when in the middle of the night I was up gewoken by the sound of
> > little mousey nibbling. Somewhere in this van a mouse has taken residence
> > and is noshing on crumbs. No real food is rodent-accessible, only cans and
> > bottles in the cupboards. Kind of wish I had a mouse trap along. But I'm
> > not sure the SNAP and sounds of the critter's death throes would be what I
> > want to hear in the middle of the night, either. Shoulda brung the cat.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from camp.
> > >
> > > --
> > > David McNeely
> > >
> > >
> >
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David McNeely
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