Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 08:39:09 -0700
Reply-To: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
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From: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: Quick throttle body re-bush
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I don't want to beat this to death but I understand now what you mean with the erosion of steel with plastic bearings. I can see how particles can become embedded in the plastic and wear the metal. But in this situation, throttle shaft, I doubt that is a big concern.
The stock seals are nothing to write home about. Mine were dry and brittle. The throttle body material, some sort of aluminum alloy which does not turn a very nicely at all, probably rubbed the shaft worse than my plastic bearings will. I ink the shaft is hardened but to be honest I didn't take a file to it to test.
Cheers
Alistair
> On Sep 13, 2014, at 8:58 PM, Jon VonOhlsen <jondvo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Generally plastic bearings do tend to wear the metal shafts more than expected. May be related to the plastic "holds" impurities which tend to provide a nice substrate for wearing the metal. This is a known phenomena in industrial/commercial apps, and I have seen this issue. Not sure about the throttle shaft/bearing as there is relatively low loading on the bearing. The factory seals are more compliant.
> Jon
>
>
>> On 9/13/2014 5:37 PM, Alistair Bell wrote:
>> Really? You think in this application the throttle shaft will be worn away?
>>
>> Geez, I better tell the guy who bought the 600 buck HDPE shaft bearing for me to install in his sailboat rudder :)
>>
>> Don't mean to sound snarky, it's just e first I have heard of such a thing in such an application.
>>
>>
>> Alistair
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Jon VonOhlsen <jondvo@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> One issue may be wear on the throttle shaft. HDPE, Delrin, and PFTE
>>> actually can wear the metal out. I have seen this in industrial plastic
>>> & metal applications.
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 9/13/2014 1:54 PM, Neil N wrote:
>>>> very helpful Alistair.
>>>>
>>>> I still may buy the gowesty vacuum operated TB switch for my '88 but
>>>> knowing that HDPE likely works (untested?) is really helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Do you see HDPE wearing well over the long term? I'm sure I could
>>>> google up some info too.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Neil.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/13/14, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://shufti.wordpress.com/2014/09/13/vanagon-quick-throttle-body-re-bush/
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Neil n
>>>>
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>>>>
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