Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:35:02 -0700
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From: Vanagon <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Mystery Mouse
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At this point I'm about to conjure up the spirit of my grandpa and let him have at it with his old under-over. Mouse pretty much kept me awake all night with its scuttling and rustling about.
Tempted to hook a hose to the van's tailpipe and fish it inside.
Sent from my 1963 maroon and cream 702B Western Electric Princess phone.
> On Sep 14, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:
>
> Don, that poison is warfarin, used also as a drug for reducing blood clotting. The mice bleed to death from their day to day minor injuries. For me, snap traps are more humane. I have no problem with killing them. A slow death? That bothers me. mcneely
>
> ---- Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> I know it is not 'green' or particularly politically correct but we use
>> that old fashioned mouse bait (Poison) you can get at any supermarket.
>> Comes in small boxes that you open and stash in mouse-only accessible
>> areas. It is dry pellets in small cardboard containers. The mice eat it
>> and go elsewhere to die...at least I have never found any bodies or smelled
>> any dead ones.
>>
>> This could be bad for other scavengers if they ate the dead mouse, I
>> suppose....But with all the poison that gets put into our environment,
>> often in hundred thousand ton quantities, and the genetically-engineered
>> poison-included crops that are killing animals across the world, a few dead
>> mice, poisoned by me, who might not make it into a hole to die....I am not
>> going to stress over that....
>>
>> They have caused me a lot of damage over the years...Lately in my shop,
>> which is also the other half a barn and it is vacant for a few months each
>> winter when we are camping...The mice come in and eat all my tool cords,
>> and crap in my cabinets, build nests everywhere and are a health hazard
>> there... I put just one of those boxes in a space behind my fridge....Never
>> had a mouse problem since that.
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Vanagon <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Moth balls in the van would repel me, too. Good idea for storage, tho. At
>>> home I use catch and release traps. This before we got Cat - she's taken
>>> over that duty. As for "death throes," they may not actually happen. Except
>>> in my imagination, perhaps, while I lie awake in the darkness, staring at
>>> the ceiling. Picturing things. In the dark. Alone. At night. In the dark.
>>>
>>> Gotta lure or chase that critter outta here. Maybe play some Celine Dion
>>> on the hi-fi. That'd work on me.
>>>
>>> Stupid mouse.
>>>
>>> Sent from camp.
>>>
>>>> On Sep 14, 2014, at 11:00 AM, <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Squirrel, never in all the mouse trapping I have done have I heard
>>> any "death throes" of the snapped victims. The snap is so sudden and
>>> instantly fatal that no sound is emitted, in my experience, other than the
>>> snap. Now, in the van, you would hear that.
>>>>
>>>> My wife once bought "humane" mouse traps, sheets of something like
>>> tree-tangle foot for insect critters. The directions were to distribute
>>> where mice frequent, and collect the critters stuck on the stickum by their
>>> feet and dispose of them in the trash. Anything but humane, as the mice
>>> live to experience their slow death. They are irrevocably stuck, alive, and
>>> unceremoniously dumped in the dumpster. Not to be used by this person
>>> again. Old fashioned snap traps are best.
>>>>
>>>> Another approach is moth balls. They repel mice, too.
>>>>
>>>> mcneely
>>>>
>>>> ---- Vanagon <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>> So I'm here on the 5th day of my annual camping trip. One site, a dry
>>> camp (no facilities, but also no fee and no neighbors) - a sort of Fall
>>> retreat, when in the middle of the night I was up gewoken by the sound of
>>> little mousey nibbling. Somewhere in this van a mouse has taken residence
>>> and is noshing on crumbs. No real food is rodent-accessible, only cans and
>>> bottles in the cupboards. Kind of wish I had a mouse trap along. But I'm
>>> not sure the SNAP and sounds of the critter's death throes would be what I
>>> want to hear in the middle of the night, either. Shoulda brung the cat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from camp.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> David McNeely
>
> --
> David McNeely
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