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Date:         Tue, 30 Sep 2014 06:12:20 -0700
Reply-To:     Joe Novak <joe.novak.6@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Joe Novak <joe.novak.6@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: difference's between model years
In-Reply-To:  <CA+So7812fk8WU3_FWt1+hju0he8OSFDdnXREQNB04OMXVBgSXg@mail.gmail.com>
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With 5 ex's in my back pocket (73,75,79,79,89, & current 86) I can say with confidence that i feel much more safe with the improvements in suspension of the later models. I spent a few years in Utah dealing with wicked crosswinds that kept me under 45 mph and barely on two wheels in the bay models. My 89 & 86 cut thru the same winds like butter...

Also of note, with my older models I could pretty much fix most issues myself when on the road. The newer vans have forced me to be a little more diligent in hunting down "that funny sound" before heading out for a long 3 day weekend since things tend to be a little more complex.

jvk .

On 30 September 2014 05:50, george jannini <georgejoann@gmail.com> wrote:

> Two more cylinders? Lipstick on a pig. Same old same old cooling system. > If you have got to have a six cylinder boxer, there's Subaru. If you want > a stocker, well there's that, too, but keep an eye on that temperature > gauge. > > Geo/ATL > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:32 PM, James <jk_eaton@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > There's nothing wrong with the Wasserboxer that another couple of > > cylinders wouldn't have fixed... which even > > VW may have realised, since they had Oettinger develop the WBX6 for our > > beasts. Then, they dropped it. > > > > Somewhere on-line there's a British review of an '87 or '88 T25 (as the > > Brits called the Vanagon) with the Oettinger six. Among other advantages > > (140 hp!) they noted an improvement in fuel economy from 21 mpg > (imperial) > > to 26 mpg. > > > > Like a few other features on the Vanagon, a tale of VW missing the mark > > for the North American market. But with more than 6 million sold in > > Europe, I can't blame them for not worrying about another 10,000 a year > > sales here. > > > > I'd love to find and install an Oettinger WBX6 - but I'm sure it's a pipe > > dream. Did any every get brought over? I doubt the engine was ever > > homologated for the USA, so it have to be a private import. > > > > James > > Ottawa, ON > > > > > Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:36:01 -0400 > > > From: georgejoann@GMAIL.COM > > > Subject: Re: difference's between model years > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > > > > Did anyone mention bigger brakes in the later models? > > > > > > I would also argue that VW never put an adequate motor in that model. > > > IMNSHO, that waterboxer thingie should never have happened. > > > > > > I am racking up miles on a used Canadian I-4 ABA engine of unknown > > > pedigree that's a workhorse. Apply gasoline, change the oil every once > > in a > > > while, filters, plugs, cap rotor, and drive it. A couple of bottles of > > > Subaru OEM coolant system conditioner, P/N SOA63571 took care of > > > occasional coolant adds. > > > > > > Will most likely be at Circle Yer Wagens this weekend, Seveirville, > > > Tennessee, USA at the fairgrounds, in a beat up split window sporting a > > > Mass plate out front. > > > > > > Geo/ATL > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roland <syncronicity1@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > There are 3 things I really like about the later Vanagons (an '89 > > Bluestar > > > > was our family car with 3 kids for 10 years): > > > > 1. power door locks -- I cannot imagine my wife walking around the > > van to > > > > lock it and then unlock it each time she went running errands with > the > > > > kids. > > > > 2. the Carat models with jump seats and the fold up table -- a huge > > value > > > > add to the experience of Vanagoning. > > > > 3. the fiberglass bumper cladding -- I know it is personal taste, > but > > I > > > > think it improved the looks. > > > > > > > > Honorable mention -- power passenger side window, makes it much > easier > > to > > > > tune the airflow. > > > > > > > > For the most part, these features are all on my current Vanagon I > still > > > > very much appreciate them. > > > > > > > > Roland > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Higginbotham, David A. < > > > > dhigginbotham@hazenandsawyer.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I know that it is accepted that the later year vanagons are better > > than > > > > > the earlier vanagons, why? Not wanting to open up a can of worms > > here, > > > > but > > > > > I am curious what were the various improvements made to the > vanagons > > > > > between 1980 and 1991. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere that > > > > someone > > > > > has compiled that lists these changes? I vaguely remember something > > > > > mentioned about something like this here on the list a number of > > years > > > > ago > > > > > but I have slept since then. > > > > > > > > > > David Higginbotham > > > > > 82 Westy (back on the road WHOOHOOO!!) > > > > > Silk Hope, NC > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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