Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:22:59 -0600
Reply-To: Geneva Saint-Amour <genevasaintamour@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Geneva Saint-Amour <genevasaintamour@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Squealing brakes! Where to find missing shims?
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David and group-
This is so helpful and good info.
We just developed a squeal and also a load groan when we step on it hard. Of course on Mexico highway 12 in the Sierra Madres we are on them pretty hard.
Geneva and/or Mike Saint-Amour
www.slowcarfasthouse.com
Mexico telephone #
011-52-638-384-6486
United States telephone #
928-300-1036
> On Oct 22, 2014, at 7:55 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:
>
> At 06:39 PM 10/22/2014, Eric Caron wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> I've called a few venders and no one has them
>> available. Anyone know where I can get them?
>
>
> VW part numbers (you need two of each) for ATE calipers (pad
> retaining spring is cross-shaped, retaining pins have built-in spring
> collar_: 211 615 231 and 211 615 232
>
> For Girling calipers (retaining spring is H-shaped, retaining pins
> use external spring clip) add 'A' suffix to above numbers.
>
> Interesting, these ATE brakes were apparently used initially by 1963 Mercedes.
>
> Both ATE and Girling are used on the ?'73-up? T2 "Loaf" buses and
> they have the same part numbers for the shims (aka anti-twist
> retainer as they keep the piston properly oriented).
>
> Volkswagen Classic Parts have both of the Girling parts listed but
> only one of the ATE ones (232). Their USA partner is GoWesty and
> their Canadian one is Myers Volkswagen, www.myersvw.com .
>
> These are newly made stainless steel ones for ATE from Brickwerks, a
> British VW Transporter site. I don't know whether they ship internationally.
> http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/index.php/anti-squeal-shim-t3-early-ate-calipers-set-of-4.html
>
> German Supply lists (out of stock) special pliers for rotating the
> pistons into position when working on them:
> http://www.germansupply.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=17318
>
> They list individual plates in their aircooled section:
> http://www.germansupply.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=16708
> http://www.germansupply.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=16711
> and a kit of all four (out of stock):
> http://www.germansupply.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=16867
>
> Beck Arnley 084-2019 is an aftermarket shim set. From photos I
> suspect that it's meant to fit either caliper by leaving off the
> piston-orienting tabs of the originals. It does not appear in the
> current Beck Arnley catalog. *I do not think leaving out the
> positioning tabs is a good idea.*
>
> This is the only listing I found for the Beck Arnley part that
> doesn't say out of stock:
> http://www.carpartkings.com/beck-arnley-front-disc-brake-pad-shim-084-2019.html
>
> There is a rumor that the Beck Arnley part cross-references to
> Raybestos DS8008, available from Amazon and The Wrench Monkey. It is
> not listed in the current Raybestos catalog:
> http://www.amazon.com/Raybestos-DS8008-Brake-Pad-Shim/dp/B0015RI13A#productDetails
> http://www.thewrenchmonkey.ca/products/auto-parts/raybestos/ds8008/
>
>
> VW Classic parts seem to be sole source for Girling calipers, and
> their omission of one of the ATE parts may be a database error. List
> price on www.vw-classicparts.de is Euros 5.82 each including
> VAT. Otherwise for ATE calipers the Brickwerks ones are the only
> ones priced reasonably. I have not checked with VW dealer for availability.
>
> Yours,
> David
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