Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:07:51 -0400
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Single wire Oxygen sensor: Substitution report..
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The ground shield in the cable assembly is only grounded at the ECU end. Grounding on both ends can allow electrical noise to be picked up and induced which can effect low voltage/current signals. Folks experienced with sound and video systems knows about special cables and ground isolation to stop humming and alternator noises.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Don Hanson
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 1:25 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Single wire Oxygen sensor: Substitution report..
The ground IS made by the 02 sensor/exhaust connection itself.
I was unsure whether the shielded cover of the harness-end of the sensor/ECO connection should be grounded somehow, to the sensor? or what....anyhow...I couldn't get a real answer to that, so I just tried it...
Mine is now..."Screw the O2 sensor in, connect one wire...and it goes"
quite well.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:05 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
> Don
>
> How did you end up dealing with the Ground ~ It should, I
> believe, be taken
>
> care of through the Body of the O2Snsr being in contact with the
> ExhaustSystem ~
>
> But I choose not to trust that as the Joints&Bolts in that Path tend
> to get Crudded
>
> over time, so I ScrewClamp a wire to the O2SnsrBody & attach the other
> end to a
>
> Good BodyGroundPoint ~
>
> ORR ~ DeanB
>
> On 30 Oct , 2014, at 10:34 AM, Don Hanson wrote:
>
> > I run digifant engine management for my inline VW ABA Jetta motored
> > vanagon...same as the stock Vanagons but with the inline motor
> > providing the go..A few weeks ago I had some problems with my engine management
> > system and traced it to a dysfunctional Oxygen sensor. I'm almost
> > positive the problems were a result of bad wiring between the O2
> > sensor
> and
> > the ECU, but I have no actual confirmation of that.
> >
> > Anyhow, I was unhappy with the cost of replacing the Bosch 3-wire
> heated
> > Oxygen sensor in my rig...the best I could find was about $70 for
> > another Bosch heated sensor, and that one didn't even have the
> > proper plug for
> my
> > wiring harness...So I did some research, called around a bit and
> > asked...and the general response was that I could replace that 3
> > wire heated oxygen sensor with the single wire Bosch sensor and save
> > myself about $50 without any real downside to engine performance.
> > But......No
> one
> > would actually come right out and tell me that. Lotta "Oh, that should
> be
> > OKs"...and "I don't see any reason why that wouldn't work
> > fine"s....There was also some nebulous opinion as to how to properly
> > connect the sensor...Should the shielded wire loom carry a grounding
> > connection or not...etc...
> >
> > Anyhow I bought a single wire Bosch from Van Cafe and installed it.
> > The results are quite satisfactory. The only downside has been that
> after
> > sustained highway driving if you shut off the motor for a short
> > while the idle speed is a little low...low enough to stall
> > sometimes...for just a couple of seconds, until the O2 sensor
> > gathers enough heat to resume
> proper
> > function, I guess.
> >
> > I have regained my fuel economy...back up to 24.xx mpg after 3000
> > miles with the new sensor. the O2 sensor i again modulating the fuel
> > mix properly....When running with the O2 sensor disconnected from
> > the ECU, I was seeing around 4-6mpg less gas mileage but the motor
> > felt quite happy and strong..
> >
> > So, in my case, I successfully saved some money on that part and gained
> > back my good gas mileage. Here's a handy app to help you track your
> > fuel...there's one for the smart phones, too....
> > http://www.fuelly.com/dashboard
>
>