Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:32:14 -0700
Reply-To: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@Q.COM>
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From: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@Q.COM>
Subject: Re: winter driving to Spokane
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Never trust figures, especially from the government. Your decision may very well be the correct one, but consider that 90% of Washington's population lives west of the mountains where a freeze is fairly uncommon and that the Spokane area gets VERY cold in the wintertime.
Karl Wolz
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> On Nov 10, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:
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> Thanks Dennis. If we do make the drive (and I will know/decide soon) I will put on a set of Blizzaks before, and keep them on to use in Spokane. I've read several reports from state DOTs and independent engineers, and I am convinced that studless winter tires are preferable to studded ones. The only condition under which studded tires are preferable is smooth ice at or very near to the freezing point. Washington DOT in its reports states that that condition represents <1% of winter driving conditions in Washington, and that dry/wet pavement represents >50%. Studded tires are the worst alternative on either dry or wet pavement. "All season tires" are no better than non-studded winter tires even in dry cold conditions.
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> We may ship the Prius and fly up. That will cost a bit more, but not a great deal more.
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> Dave
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> ---- Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> The Prius equipped with real winter performance tires does surprising well in winter conditions like most front wheel drive cars. If looking to stay with an all season tire look at some of the Nokian offerings. The new WRG3 are performance winter tires with all season capabilities and low rolling resistance rating which the Prius benefits from.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely
>> Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:25 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: winter driving to Spokane
>>
>> I may need to drive to Spokane, Washington from Edmond, Oklahoma in December, maybe late December. I have been trying to work out the safest (meaning least likely to encounter serious winter weather) route. I may have settled on driving a long way around route involving taking I-40 to California, then up I-5 to Portland, then from there back NE to Spokane. Or even dropping further south to hit I-10 and I-8 to get into California.
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>> These are likely to involve at least 5 days of driving, more if I do hit winter weather on I-40 (quite possible anywhere along that route until dropping off the plateau at Kingman, AZ) or even on I-20 in Texas.
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>> Anyone have anything to suggest, including taking my chances through the plains and mountains rather than one of the these long way around routes?
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>> Of course we would be winter prepped, with proper tires, emergency gear, food and prepared for multi-day stops if necessary.
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>> My apologies, but this drive will not involve my camper, which has already been moved to Spokane, but rather my Prius.
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>> Thanks, Dave McNeely
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> David McNeely
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