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Date:         Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:51:25 -0500
Reply-To:     Stephen Engel <sengel543@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stephen Engel <sengel543@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: New diesel from VW
Comments: To: "mcneely4@COX.NET" <mcneely4@COX.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <20141118130043.RM016.783921.imail@eastrmwml214>
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It's not just diesels, but gas vehicles too. I guess there is a way to leave your vehicle running and lock it. It seems that at almost any given time in store parking lots there is some car running with no one inside. I assume they're wanting to keep the a/c or heat going.

Steve 87 Syncro

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On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:

> Ok, but do they need to be left idling for hours on end? I'm talking about personal vehicles, not giant tractors. I do see them that way, including a GM pickup yesterday. mcneely > > ---- KI4TLF <ki4tlf@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> Yes and no. The larger truck diesels can be, but it's like a turbocharged gas engine. Best to let them run for 1 to 3 minutes depending on the outside temperature. Same for shutdown. >> >> Cold weather you need to get the oil circulating through the turbo as it warms up from the engine and exhaust heat. With some of the new variable vane turbos, they can spin faster with less exhaust pressure, so the need for oil circulation is more critical. That's one of the reasons for the lower viscosity synthetic oil. >> >> That being said, unless it's one of the newer diesel trucks with the shutters in front of the radiator, they still have problems with real cold weather getting warm. I'm running a sheet of cardboard in front of my radiator, but behind the intercooler. >> >> GregM >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely >> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:24 AM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: New diesel from VW >> >> Just yesterday I was on my daily walk and passed by a giant diesel pickup parked by the curb with a big "camping" trailer (portable house) behind it. The engine was running. An hour later I passed it again. Still there, still running. >> >> I know that diesel engines in the old days were hard to start, took a good long while to heat up, and ran inefficiently until fully hot. But that isn't true now, is it? Aren't automotive diesel engines supposed to fire right up and be driven away immediately, like gasoline engines? >> >> mcneely >> >> ---- "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote: >>> diesels might be outlawed ???? >>> that is fantastic news !!! >>> >>> ( wouldn't be so bad if people would shut the damn things off ! ) >>> >>> lol..where I am diesel fuel is almost 5 dollars a gallon. >>> and fortunately not many diesel cars. >>> >>> >>> On 11/17/2014 8:33 AM, Jim Felder wrote: >>>> When diesels are outlawed, only outlaws will have diesels. >>>> >>>> Outlaw Jim >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If Obama came out in favor of the English system, we'd have >>>>> metric in a Heartbeat.....If Obama said diesels should be >>>>> regulated, we would have them in all our vehicles, just like the rest of the world... >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ---- "Chris S." <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>>>>>> I would love to see an affordable TDI in my Vanagon. Wait, what >>>>>>> is that >>>>>> spooling woosh sound? Ah, that's sound of the V8 becoming obsolete. >>>>>>> Word is that we will see this engine stateside as soon as the >>>>>>> metric >>>>>> system is adopted as the US standard. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, that's not going to happen. Don't you know that the metric >>>>>> system is a part of the socialist takeover plan for the U.S.? lol >>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wysłane z iPhone'a >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dnia Nov 16, 2014 o godz. 22:52 John Rodgers >>>>>>> <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> >>>>>> napisał(a): >>>>>>>> A new 2.0 L four cyl 269 hp engine has just been shown by VW. >>>>>>>> And the >>>>>> thing >>>>>>>> gets 40-50 mpg. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thats all i can tell you right now. Saw a picture of it an its >>>>>>>> little monster . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>> -- >>>>>> David McNeely >> >> -- >> David McNeely > > -- > David McNeely


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