Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:15:58 -0800
Reply-To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Oil pressure ?
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One more thing to consider...The sandwich oil cooler adapter plate you
installed to get a connection to your VDO gauge....I found one of those
came to me out of the package with somewhat restricted oil passages...the
castings of the sandwich plate had not been properly cleaned up when it was
taken from the molds and there was a partially restricted area in the plate
itself. Since your motor was indicating low OP before you added the plate
and gauge, this is probably not the main issue, but when you do take the
motor to GO Westie for inspection and diagnosing you should ask them to
check the sandwich plate adapter when they are inside....
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
> I haven't read every post carefully but it sounds to me like you have a
> problem with the motor, not a problem with all the gauges and warnings.
> You seem to have done all the right things to assure yourself that what
> your gauges buzzers and lights say is true. You seem to have Low Oil
> Pressure with that motor. If it was only the stock WBX OP indicators
> lighting and buzzing...one might have reason to doubt those (you may have
> done, and added the real OP gauge) but you are seeing the same indications
> from both your aftermarket and your WBX gauges and it seems unlikely that
> two different systems indicating the same conditions could both be
> indicating falsely.
>
> You recently paid for an expensive rebuilt engine and now it seems,
> without much doubt, to be showing inadequate oil pressure. If it was my
> motor I would be consulting with the shop that sold it to me, I've not
> dealt with Go Westie but I understand from reading here for some time that
> they are considered to be reputable.. I'd try to make arrangements with
> them to take care of this problem...It's an actual problem, if you are
> worrying about it. Your new expensive motor is at the low end of the range
> for acceptable oil pressure. I'd take it back to them and ask them to
> get it right. They should take care of the issues for you.
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The seal that was replaced was the pulley seal close to the oil pump
>> cover and that seal area was also resealed. Noah's shop also added a small
>> gasket at the pump cover which had none except a silicone type sealant was
>> used from GOWESTY. I tried 2 different OP blue pressure switches with the
>> same results happening.
>>
>> Dennis Jowell
>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 23, 2014, at 12:22 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I would be concerned that the problem started after replacing the rear
>> seal.
>> > I would also be concerned that the seal had to be replaced on a new
>> engine.
>> > Something is wrong. Are we talking the rear seal as in the pulley seal
>> or
>> > the flywheel seal? Or was is the oil pump cover seal? Then I would
>> suspect
>> > the wrong gasket was installed.
>> >
>> > One thing I would do is get the rear oil pressure switch from the
>> dealer.
>> > The aftermarket ones including the OEM looking Meyle stuff is junk and
>> they
>> > are all over the place. The newer dealer switches have also been
>> redesigned
>> > with more band between setting on and releasing to help prevent the
>> falsies.
>> >
>> >
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> > Dennis Jowell
>> > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:00 PM
>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> > Subject: Re: Oil pressure ?
>> >
>> > New filter, oil is 20w50 NAPA, oil level is slightly less than 1/2 on
>> the
>> > stick. Pressure does rise off idle. Not to sure if oil cooler is
>> working or
>> > how to check it out. It was 20 out during the 80 mile trip back an forth
>> > from the farm. Could there be an oil pump problem on the new 2.2
>> engine? The
>> > oil pump pressure was tested by Noah when the rear seal started to leak
>> and
>> > he replaced the seal. Then the trouble with the light/ buzzer syndrome
>> > started.
>> >
>> >
>> > Dennis Jowell
>> > Scotch Hollow Farm
>> >
>> >
>> >>> On Nov 22, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> What viscosity oil are you using? 22 psi at 3,600 RPM is low
>> >> especially for a new engine. Any chance you are over filling it?
>> >> Clogged or otherwise restricted filter? Is the oil cooler working? The
>> >> 6 psi at idle is also low but not that uncommon Pressure should rise
>> >> quickly above idle. 28 psi at
>> >> 3800 is considered a wear limit unless there are extenuating
>> >> circumstances such as after a prolonged high speed drive.
>> >>
>> >> Dennis
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> >> Behalf Of Dennis Jowell
>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:50 PM
>> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> >> Subject: Oil pressure ?
>> >>
>> >> After installing my new VDO electric oil gauge I finally took my 88
>> >> Westy out this afternoon for a test ride. Driving the interstate at 65
>> >> mph, oil is at 22 psi, drove for another 40 miles down to the exit
>> >> ramp and oil pressure light/buzzer goes off at the end of the ramp.
>> >> PSI was at 6 at 900 rpm's. Is this common? Or is there a problem with
>> >> my new GOWESTY engine that has 3000+ miles on it ?
>> >>
>> >> Dennis Jowell
>> >> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>
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