Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 14:15:20 -1000
Reply-To: "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Organization: Cosmic Reminders
Subject: Re: Final Oil pressure result
In-Reply-To: <83214534-B6EA-49BE-95C9-8747BC728BB2@gmail.com>
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At least look behind the license plate at that bottle.
if all is normal..coolant will be a couple inches deep at least in there.
( I have seen *many* of them pretty low or empty ..
most vanagons in my experiencing use coolant slightly ..
say cup or two a month . )
if the guy opened up the system ..
and the cap on the pressure bottle is working like it should ( not
always a give )
you may find the license plate bottle low or empty.
On 12/6/2014 1:26 PM, Dennis Jowell wrote:
> Thanks for the quick update on my oil pressure. I'll talk them about this and check the coolant level tomorrow .
>
> Dennis Jowell
> Scotch Hollow Farm
> West Newbury, Vermont
>
>
>> On Dec 6, 2014, at 6:00 PM, SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>>
>> perfect oil pressure readings.
>>
>> find out if any coolant pipes were touched working on the oil pump.
>> if the cooling system was opened up ..
>> sounds like something is going on ..
>> like air in the system.
>>
>> I have never ever seen a t-stat itself make gauge reading swings..
>> right now I'd say cooling system not bled propery. ( usually not a big deal either )
>>
>> or possible gauge weirdness.
>>
>>
>>> On 12/5/2014 1:57 AM, Dennis Jowell wrote:
>>> OK here are the final results of Noah reworking the oil pressure syndrome problem on my 88 Westy. Drove 200 miles yesterday on the interstate and back to the farm.
>>>
>>> 65 mph, 3200 rpm's, 42 psi.
>>> At idle 12 psi
>>> I think this is all within acceptable parameters ? Any thoughts ?
>>> What was done was to replace and add the correct gaskets and sealant at the oil pump and flange cover etc. that was the problem.
>>> Thanks to all of you with your suggestions, they helped in diagnosing the problem.
>>>
>>> One almost final note is that during my test drive of yesterday I noticed that the thermostat now has swings of up to 60% range down to 20% range on the gauge. Before I dropped it off to Noah the gauge was constant at 50%. Is this coincidental or just another new problem? Could something been unplugged during the oil pump problem? I'll look at the coolant level this morning. The weather may warm a bit its 2 below now.
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the help
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> Dennis Jowell
>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: November 24, 2014 at 6:41:36 AM EST
>>>> To: Noah VW Repair Crowther <craigsvwrepair@yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: Fwd: Oil pressure ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dennis Jowell
>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca>
>>>>> Date: November 24, 2014 at 1:37:05 AM EST
>>>>> To: Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Oil pressure ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I bet the oil pump gasket is the problem. Well that sounds arrogant and assured, but if the oil pressure problem arose after the gasket replacement....
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd go back to the no gasket set up, using the loctite anerobic gasket goo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>
>>>>> Alistair
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The seal that was replaced was the pulley seal close to the oil pump cover and that seal area was also resealed. Noah's shop also added a small gasket at the pump cover which had none except a silicone type sealant was used from GOWESTY. I tried 2 different OP blue pressure switches with the same results happening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dennis Jowell
>>>>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 23, 2014, at 12:22 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would be concerned that the problem started after replacing the rear seal.
>>>>>>>> I would also be concerned that the seal had to be replaced on a new engine.
>>>>>>>> Something is wrong. Are we talking the rear seal as in the pulley seal or
>>>>>>>> the flywheel seal? Or was is the oil pump cover seal? Then I would suspect
>>>>>>>> the wrong gasket was installed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One thing I would do is get the rear oil pressure switch from the dealer.
>>>>>>>> The aftermarket ones including the OEM looking Meyle stuff is junk and they
>>>>>>>> are all over the place. The newer dealer switches have also been redesigned
>>>>>>>> with more band between setting on and releasing to help prevent the falsies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Dennis Jowell
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:00 PM
>>>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Oil pressure ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> New filter, oil is 20w50 NAPA, oil level is slightly less than 1/2 on the
>>>>>>>> stick. Pressure does rise off idle. Not to sure if oil cooler is working or
>>>>>>>> how to check it out. It was 20 out during the 80 mile trip back an forth
>>>>>>>> from the farm. Could there be an oil pump problem on the new 2.2 engine? The
>>>>>>>> oil pump pressure was tested by Noah when the rear seal started to leak and
>>>>>>>> he replaced the seal. Then the trouble with the light/ buzzer syndrome
>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dennis Jowell
>>>>>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What viscosity oil are you using? 22 psi at 3,600 RPM is low
>>>>>>>> especially for a new engine. Any chance you are over filling it?
>>>>>>>> Clogged or otherwise restricted filter? Is the oil cooler working? The
>>>>>>>> 6 psi at idle is also low but not that uncommon Pressure should rise
>>>>>>>> quickly above idle. 28 psi at
>>>>>>>> 3800 is considered a wear limit unless there are extenuating
>>>>>>>> circumstances such as after a prolonged high speed drive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Dennis Jowell
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:50 PM
>>>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Oil pressure ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After installing my new VDO electric oil gauge I finally took my 88
>>>>>>>> Westy out this afternoon for a test ride. Driving the interstate at 65
>>>>>>>> mph, oil is at 22 psi, drove for another 40 miles down to the exit
>>>>>>>> ramp and oil pressure light/buzzer goes off at the end of the ramp.
>>>>>>>> PSI was at 6 at 900 rpm's. Is this common? Or is there a problem with
>>>>>>>> my new GOWESTY engine that has 3000+ miles on it ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dennis Jowell
>>>>>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
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