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Date:         Sat, 6 Dec 2014 19:59:23 -0600
Reply-To:     Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: A New Look In Jumper Batteries
Comments: To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <009a01d011be$578162a0$068427e0$@gmail.com>
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That's what I think!

Jim

> On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I can't see any reason not to. Now you don't need a battery isolator, just > run them both down and jump the starting battery! > > Stuart > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Felder [mailto:jim.felder@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 2:45 PM > To: Stuart MacMillan > Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: A New Look In Jumper Batteries > > I just looked at the instructions to my Rockford Pocket Power Jump Starter

> as to charging in the car: > > "Plug the DC car adapter into the DC car charging port. Connect the 14v 1a

> input port of the Pocket Power Jump Starter to the other end of the DC car

> adapter" > > No mention is made of any limitation as to the time. It does say "this unit > is not designed to be used in the place of a vehicle battery." > > Jim > > > >> On Dec 6, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >> The one I have is a 10,000 mAh lithium hydride battery, the kind that are

> used in hybrid vehicles by the hundreds. And that can catch fire. >> >> This product is a result of the increased production of electric car > batteries, which has lowered the price. >> >> At some point, they no doubt will replace the lead acid batteries, if >> for no other reason than to reduce weight (a la Boeing's 787) >> >> I don't think the car charging system is regulated well enough to leave > one of these charging while the car is running, so they don't recommend > that. And, mine says it can deliver 200 amps for starting for a brief time, > but the wires are not a large enough gauge to do that for long. They rely

> on some juice coming from even a "dead" battery. >> >> Stuart >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >> Behalf Of John Rodgers >> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 6:50 AM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: A New Look In Jumper Batteries >> >> Somewhat like a bumble bee, huh? Shouldn't be able to fly, but the bee

>> doesen't know that and fly's anyway! >> >> John >>> On Dec 6, 2014 6:29 AM, "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Mine came with some brief instructions but no information at all >>> about the technology used nor cranking amps or whatever. It seems >>> that when they are discussed the general consensus is that they >>> couldn't work as well as they do. >>> >>> I wonder if you could hook one up along side a deep cycle battery to >>> charge while you were running, then this thing would actually do most

>>> of the work of starting the car? That way you could have your cake >>> and eat it too, with just one battery. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Vanagon <camping.elliott@gmail.com> > wrote: >>>> >>>> How many cold crank amps can those things possibly pack? Why aren't >>>> we using them for starting batteries if they work that well? >>>> >>>> Dark magic, indeed. >>>> >>>> Jack Elliott >>>> 1984 Westfalia >>>> >>>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Loren Busch <starwagen@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This subject came up a couple of weeks ago, I think on this list. >>>>> The >>>> new, >>>>> very small/compact jump start batteries. >>>>> Well, I got a chance yesterday to try on. On a very dead battery >>>>> in my >>>> '90 >>>>> T-Bird. And the darn thing worked! Actually three times! And >>> according >>>>> to the meter on the thing it was only pulled down about 20%. >>>>> One of these: >>>>> < >>> http://www.amazon.com/Spirit-G03-Emergency-14000mAh-Saunsung/dp/B00KC >>> BCXKC/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1417808523&sr=1-1&keywords= >>> spirit+battery >>>>> >>>>> So, I'm impressed. >


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