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Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:27:56 -0500
Reply-To:     Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: A New Look In Jumper Batteries
Comments: To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <037201d013f3$7c102d40$743087c0$@gmail.com>
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The pilot started my ATV with the battery out yesterday. Going to NAPA to pickup 6 gauge wire for the generator to test if that is the problem why the pilot won't start the generator. I'll be back.

Dennis Jowell Scotch Hollow Farm West Newbury, Vermont

> On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I have one of these and it works fine. 16 ga wire for the solenoid seems a

> bit light, but it's probably a very short distance from the switch. The > Pilot may just not have enough oomph, your JNC 300xl that did work is 900 > amps peak power, vs. 400 for the Pilot. Big difference, especially at 7 > degrees. > > Stuart > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of

> Dennis Jowell > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:23 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: A New Look In Jumper Batteries > > Returned the unit to Lowes and got another one just to,see,if it was a bad

> unit. Tried it again on the generator and no luck. Called their company > support. That was a complete waste of time. Another story. Going to try > another approach. Install larger cables on the generator right now I have

> 16 gauge wire to the ground and to the positive side of the starter > solenoid. Why this would make a difference I don't know but these jump > starter units can't be that bad? Trying to justify the 80 mile round trip to > Lowes! > > Dennis Jowell > Scotch Hollow Farm > West Newbury, Vermont > > >> On Dec 7, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> I've been eyeing the Lowe's unit also. Very attractive price, but not if

> the item does not work. Thanks for the report. >> >> Stephen >> -------------------------------------------- >> On Sun, 12/7/14, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: A New Look In Jumper Batteries >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Date: Sunday, December 7, 2014, 4:39 PM >> >> Got my jump starter last week at >> Lowes on a holiday sale for $79. Thought I would test it today on my >> Honda generator. Perfect weather for a test it is 7 above out.The unit

>> is a Pilot Jump Starter/charger #753361. When I hooked the cables as >> per instructions It would not turn anything over it kept saying my >> polarity is backwards. As always red to + black to - So I pulled out >> my JNC 300xl hooked up the cables the same way and the generator >> started right up. Perfect. The pilot is going back. I was hoping for a

>> smaller unit that would work to travel with in my Westy. >> Dennis Jowell >> Scotch Hollow Farm >> West Newbury, Vermont >> >> >>>> On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Mine came with some brief instructions but no >> information at all about the >>> technology used nor cranking amps or whatever. It seems >> that when they are >>> discussed the general consensus is that they couldn't >> work as well as they >>> do. >>> >>> I wonder if you could hook one up along side a deep >> cycle battery to charge >>> while you were running, then this thing would actually >> do most of the work >>> of starting the car? That way you could have your cake >> and eat it too, with >>> just one battery. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Vanagon <camping.elliott@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> How many cold crank amps can those things possibly >> pack? Why aren't we >>>> using them for starting batteries if they work that >> well? >>>> >>>> Dark magic, indeed. >>>> >>>> Jack Elliott >>>> 1984 Westfalia >>>> >>>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Loren Busch <starwagen@GMAIL.COM> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This subject came up a couple of weeks ago, I >> think on this list. The >>>> new, >>>>> very small/compact jump start batteries. >>>>> Well, I got a chance yesterday to try on. >> On a very dead battery in my >>>> '90 >>>>> T-Bird. And the darn thing worked! >> Actually three times! And according >>>>> to the meter on the thing it was only pulled >> down about 20%. >>>>> One of these: >>>>> < >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Spirit-G03-Emergency-14000mAh-Saunsung/dp/B00K >>>> CBCXKC/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1417808523&sr=1-1&keyword >>>> s=spirit+battery >>>>> >>>>> So, I'm impressed. >>>> >


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