Date:         Tue, 23 Dec 2014 13:39:30 -0800
Reply-To:     Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: How does water even get in here? (Side window lip rust). And
              questions about window seals and adhesive.
Comments: To: Mike South <msouth@gmail.com>
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FWIW, my '88 leaks at the forward lower part of the driverside window
seal behind the pillar behind driver door. This vehicle may also have
had collision body work done on the driver side. I have to wonder if
the body panels were still misaligned and causing a leak at the window
seal.

Another theory. I assume water can get in between "flat" outer edge of
seal and body but even if seal is good, can water get in at ledge of
seal where it meets glass? If so, maybe an appropriate sealant applied
at this ledge would provide a temporary fix or at least slow down
water ingress?

Neil.

On 12/23/14, Mike South <msouth@gmail.com> wrote:

> 1985 Westy (Bostig conversion, manual trans (converted))
>
> Uploaded two pictures which you can see at this link:
>
> http://imgur.com/cICZ1uR,iQmOCJq
>
> I am replacing the window because it broke while I was driving.  When I got
> the window out, I was kind of surprised to see rust there.
>
> Question 1:  how does water get there in the first place (out of both
> curiosity and the desire to understand what needs to be done to prevent
> recurrence)?

>
> Bentley section 64 shows, for model years 1986 or later, precise dimensions
> for a bead of adhesive to be placed on the outside of the van.  They
> indicate that this exact amount is used so that minimal gets to the
> inside.  I'm guessing this means that the adhesive gets dragged in by the
> seal as the window is placed.  Then you're supposed to use a solvent to
> clean off any on the inside.
>

> Question 5:  Would there be any advantage to/problem with applying adhesive
> after the installation?


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Neil n

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