Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 11:38:05 -0500
Reply-To: Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Heat inside the camper.. No
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That's pretty interesting Don. How long do you think it took for the flame
to start diminishing? Another physics question for the list is at what %
oxygen will that start happening to the stove flame. At least some of
those propane heaters with oxygen depletion sensors work on the same
principle. the pilot light is what heats the thermocouple. as O2 declines
the pilot flame shrinks until the thermocouple eventually shuts off the gas
due to low temp.
I have "illegally" used the stove for heat while stealth camping but not
for very long. Usually just long enough to get dressed enough to go into
the walmart/truckstop/whatever that I'm stealth camping at. when i get
back I start the engine and let it idle while I reconfigure for driving.
put front heater on cold so no coolant goes to that core and that rear
heater will start putting out heat quite soon.
Edward
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM, David Bjorkman <ddbjorkman@verizon.net>
wrote:
> I too am a lover of that coffee pot heating the interior of the Westy
> first thing in the AM. As a matter of fact, the lovely bride and I usually
> set up the coffee the night before and whoever loses the buck up in the AM
> has to jump out of bed and light the burner. By the time the coffee is
> ready, the cabin is warm and toasty and we get dressed. I Love my car.
> BUT, we never leave it on longer than it takes to do the job, and the top
> is open. I must admit we have, on very limited occasions, heated a couple
> of kettles to almost boiling point in the bus to fend off the cold, thus
> allowing a heat source, but one must be very cognizant of O2. Just being
> in the vehicle uses it up. There are better ways to get a headache Than
> lack of oxygen.
>
> Dave B.
>
>
> On 01/03/15, Don Hanson wrote:
>
> Over many years and different vans, the majority VW, I've often used my
> cook stove for quick heat. I've believed that my vans "leaked" enough
> outside air that asphyxiation wasn't going to happen. This is probably
> wrong, at least in my tin top camper. Just now, it being around freezing
> in the pre-dawn desert SW, I brewed coffee and left both westie stove
> burners on high for some heat as I watched the sunrise .... I saw my
> burner's flame diminish and get thready. Thought I was out of propane...
> But I discovered that a kitchen match, the "strike and light anywhere"
> kind, that would not light! No O2 or too much co2....whatever, pretty
> scary. I ran back the slider and let some air in, things burn normal again.
>
> So I believe the warning against using the cook top for cabin heat.,..now.
> I just saw why.
>
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