Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 10:41:45 -0500
Reply-To: Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Heat inside the camper.. No
In-Reply-To: <CACrM94LQ6gifkbtY=iWphT55ncoRaLFHT88v4eUm2vBadA0Hhw@mail.gmail.com>
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looks cool, how many BTU is that unit?
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I have the Webasto Air Top 2000 gas version (benzine). Got it from eBay...
>
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/281214486217
>
> It's installed behind the passenger seat and I have a mockup cabinet built
> to house it. Final cabinet will have Westfalia doors, trim and laminate to
> match the rest of the Westy interior
>
>
> http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10853060_575272589270874_1875694596_n.jpg
> On Jan 4, 2015 2:06 AM, <mfmagnani@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Abel,
> > I did a google search of the Webasto heater and I'm curious which kind of
> > heater you have and how you mounted it. Do you have any pictures of your
> > installation?
> > My wife and I just got back from the Grand Canyon where we really could
> > have used some heat.
> > Thanks,
> > Mike M
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Invest in a propane detector and a Carbon monoxide detector.. Safety
> > first.
> > >
> > > I just recently installed a webasto fuel heater and love it. Can't wait
> > for
> > > some more winter camping.
> > >
> > > Abel.
> > > On Jan 3, 2015 11:08 AM, "Tom Hargrave" <thargrav@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> The scary part of this is you were not breathing heavy. This means
> that
> > O2
> > >> was being depleted but there was not much CO2 in the air. Your body
> does
> > >> not react to absence of oxygen, it reacts to a buildup of CO2.
> > >>
> > >> If instead of watching the flame you had dozed off, you might have
> just
> > >> gone to sleep and not woken back up!!!!
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
> > >> www.kegkits.com
> > >> www.stir-plate.com
> > >> www.towercooler.com
> > >> www.grow-sun.com
> > >> www.raspberryproject.com
> > >> http://goo.gl/niRzVw
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On
> Behalf
> > >> Of Edward Maglott
> > >> Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 10:38 AM
> > >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > >> Subject: Re: Heat inside the camper.. No
> > >>
> > >> That's pretty interesting Don. How long do you think it took for the
> > >> flame to start diminishing? Another physics question for the list is
> at
> > >> what % oxygen will that start happening to the stove flame. At least
> > some
> > >> of those propane heaters with oxygen depletion sensors work on the
> same
> > >> principle. the pilot light is what heats the thermocouple. as O2
> > declines
> > >> the pilot flame shrinks until the thermocouple eventually shuts off
> the
> > gas
> > >> due to low temp.
> > >>
> > >> I have "illegally" used the stove for heat while stealth camping but
> not
> > >> for very long. Usually just long enough to get dressed enough to go
> > into
> > >> the walmart/truckstop/whatever that I'm stealth camping at. when i
> get
> > >> back I start the engine and let it idle while I reconfigure for
> driving.
> > >> put front heater on cold so no coolant goes to that core and that rear
> > >> heater will start putting out heat quite soon.
> > >> Edward
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM, David Bjorkman <
> ddbjorkman@verizon.net
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I too am a lover of that coffee pot heating the interior of the Westy
> > >>> first thing in the AM. As a matter of fact, the lovely bride and I
> > >>> usually set up the coffee the night before and whoever loses the buck
> > >>> up in the AM has to jump out of bed and light the burner. By the
> time
> > >>> the coffee is ready, the cabin is warm and toasty and we get dressed.
> > I
> > >> Love my car.
> > >>> BUT, we never leave it on longer than it takes to do the job, and the
> > >>> top is open. I must admit we have, on very limited occasions, heated
> > >>> a couple of kettles to almost boiling point in the bus to fend off
> the
> > >>> cold, thus allowing a heat source, but one must be very cognizant of
> > >>> O2. Just being in the vehicle uses it up. There are better ways to
> > >>> get a headache Than lack of oxygen.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dave B.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 01/03/15, Don Hanson wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Over many years and different vans, the majority VW, I've often used
> > >>> my cook stove for quick heat. I've believed that my vans "leaked"
> > >>> enough outside air that asphyxiation wasn't going to happen. This is
> > >>> probably wrong, at least in my tin top camper. Just now, it being
> > >>> around freezing in the pre-dawn desert SW, I brewed coffee and left
> > >>> both westie stove burners on high for some heat as I watched the
> > >>> sunrise .... I saw my burner's flame diminish and get thready.
> Thought
> > I
> > >> was out of propane...
> > >>> But I discovered that a kitchen match, the "strike and light
> anywhere"
> > >>> kind, that would not light! No O2 or too much co2....whatever, pretty
> > >>> scary. I ran back the slider and let some air in, things burn normal
> > >> again.
> > >>>
> > >>> So I believe the warning against using the cook top for cabin
> > >> heat.,..now.
> > >>> I just saw why.
> > >> -----
> > >> No virus found in this message.
> > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > >> Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8855 - Release Date:
> > 01/02/15
> > >>
> >
>
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