Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 07:44:28 -0600
Reply-To: Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Heat inside the camper.. No
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It's a Webasto Air top 2000, they have two models.. One runs off of diesel
and the other regular gasoline. You splice your fuel line between the gas
tank and the fuel pump. Insert a plastic tee which feed a small fuel line
to the webasto fuel pump that feeds the heater. It's supposed to give 22
hours of heating per 1 gallon of fuel.
I considered a propex propane heater and almost bought one until I found
out about the webasto having a gasoline version. The main selling point for
me was the fact that with the webasto no matter where I was I'd be able to
add more fuel for the heater. Meaning I just need to keep gas in my tank
which I always do. The propane tank on my Westy is stock. There's no real
way to check the levels of the tank to see how much is left. Oh and if for
some reason I ran out of propane on a camping trip it's much harder to find
a propane fill station the it is to find a regular gas station.
The one downside I've realized with the webasto is that it's programmed for
elevations 5,000 feet and below. There is a way to adjust the heater and
set it to work in higher elevations but it's a small process which is
described in the thread below. Some heaters compensate for the elevation
change and/or have modules you can buy that do it automatically. The
Webasto heater you have to program yourself which isn't really a big deal
but it's not automatic and worth mentioning.
This thread has a ton of info on differences between a gasoline and propane
heaters..
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=608699
This is my heater. Installed it behind the passenger seat and I now have a
base that covers it so my fridge can sit on top.
http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10838809_605846729562176_880241403_n.jpg
Abel
DasMotoClub.com
On Jan 3, 2015 6:44 PM, <Greg@gregorychilds.com> wrote:
> Dear Abel,
>
> I'm interested in knowing more about the Webasto fuel heater that you
> installed. Would you please reply with the model number and any helpful
> information about the installation and performance. I don't know much about
> the product. Does it run for of gasoline from the vehicle gas tank?
>
> Thanks so much,
> Greg
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Heat inside the camper.. No
> From: Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@GMAIL.COM>
> Date: Sat, January 03, 2015 9:37 am
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
> Invest in a propane detector and a Carbon monoxide detector.. Safety first.
>
> I just recently installed a webasto fuel heater and love it. Can't wait for
> some more winter camping.
>
> Abel.
> On Jan 3, 2015 11:08 AM, "Tom Hargrave" <thargrav@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>
> > The scary part of this is you were not breathing heavy. This means that
> O2
> > was being depleted but there was not much CO2 in the air. Your body does
> > not react to absence of oxygen, it reacts to a buildup of CO2.
> >
> > If instead of watching the flame you had dozed off, you might have just
> > gone to sleep and not woken back up!!!!
> >
> > Thanks, Tom Hargrave
> > www.kegkits.com
> > www.stir-plate.com
> > www.towercooler.com
> > www.grow-sun.com
> > www.raspberryproject.com
> > http://goo.gl/niRzVw
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>] On Behalf
> > Of Edward Maglott
> > Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 10:38 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Heat inside the camper.. No
> >
> > That's pretty interesting Don. How long do you think it took for the
> > flame to start diminishing? Another physics question for the list is at
> > what % oxygen will that start happening to the stove flame. At least some
> > of those propane heaters with oxygen depletion sensors work on the same
> > principle. the pilot light is what heats the thermocouple. as O2 declines
> > the pilot flame shrinks until the thermocouple eventually shuts off the
> gas
> > due to low temp.
> >
> > I have "illegally" used the stove for heat while stealth camping but not
> > for very long. Usually just long enough to get dressed enough to go into
> > the walmart/truckstop/whatever that I'm stealth camping at. when i get
> > back I start the engine and let it idle while I reconfigure for driving.
> > put front heater on cold so no coolant goes to that core and that rear
> > heater will start putting out heat quite soon.
> > Edward
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM, David Bjorkman <ddbjorkman@verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I too am a lover of that coffee pot heating the interior of the Westy
> > > first thing in the AM. As a matter of fact, the lovely bride and I
> > > usually set up the coffee the night before and whoever loses the buck
> > > up in the AM has to jump out of bed and light the burner. By the time
> > > the coffee is ready, the cabin is warm and toasty and we get dressed. I
> > Love my car.
> > > BUT, we never leave it on longer than it takes to do the job, and the
> > > top is open. I must admit we have, on very limited occasions, heated
> > > a couple of kettles to almost boiling point in the bus to fend off the
> > > cold, thus allowing a heat source, but one must be very cognizant of
> > > O2. Just being in the vehicle uses it up. There are better ways to
> > > get a headache Than lack of oxygen.
> > >
> > > Dave B.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 01/03/15, Don Hanson wrote:
> > >
> > > Over many years and different vans, the majority VW, I've often used
> > > my cook stove for quick heat. I've believed that my vans "leaked"
> > > enough outside air that asphyxiation wasn't going to happen. This is
> > > probably wrong, at least in my tin top camper. Just now, it being
> > > around freezing in the pre-dawn desert SW, I brewed coffee and left
> > > both westie stove burners on high for some heat as I watched the
> > > sunrise .... I saw my burner's flame diminish and get thready. Thought
> I
> > was out of propane...
> > > But I discovered that a kitchen match, the "strike and light anywhere"
> > > kind, that would not light! No O2 or too much co2....whatever, pretty
> > > scary. I ran back the slider and let some air in, things burn normal
> > again.
> > >
> > > So I believe the warning against using the cook top for cabin
> > heat.,..now.
> > > I just saw why.
> > >
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