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Date:         Sun, 4 Jan 2015 10:41:45 -0500
Reply-To:     Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Heat inside the camper.. No
In-Reply-To:  <CACrM94LQ6gifkbtY=iWphT55ncoRaLFHT88v4eUm2vBadA0Hhw@mail.gmail.com>
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looks cool, how many BTU is that unit?

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the Webasto Air Top 2000 gas version (benzine). Got it from eBay... > > http://m.ebay.com/itm/281214486217 > > It's installed behind the passenger seat and I have a mockup cabinet built > to house it. Final cabinet will have Westfalia doors, trim and laminate to > match the rest of the Westy interior > > > http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10853060_575272589270874_1875694596_n.jpg > On Jan 4, 2015 2:06 AM, <mfmagnani@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > Hi Abel, > > I did a google search of the Webasto heater and I'm curious which kind of > > heater you have and how you mounted it. Do you have any pictures of your > > installation? > > My wife and I just got back from the Grand Canyon where we really could > > have used some heat. > > Thanks, > > Mike M > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jan 3, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@GMAIL.COM> > wrote: > > > > > Invest in a propane detector and a Carbon monoxide detector.. Safety > > first. > > > > > > I just recently installed a webasto fuel heater and love it. Can't wait > > for > > > some more winter camping. > > > > > > Abel. > > > On Jan 3, 2015 11:08 AM, "Tom Hargrave" <thargrav@hiwaay.net> wrote: > > > > > >> The scary part of this is you were not breathing heavy. This means > that > > O2 > > >> was being depleted but there was not much CO2 in the air. Your body > does > > >> not react to absence of oxygen, it reacts to a buildup of CO2. > > >> > > >> If instead of watching the flame you had dozed off, you might have > just > > >> gone to sleep and not woken back up!!!! > > >> > > >> Thanks, Tom Hargrave > > >> www.kegkits.com > > >> www.stir-plate.com > > >> www.towercooler.com > > >> www.grow-sun.com > > >> www.raspberryproject.com > > >> http://goo.gl/niRzVw > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On > Behalf > > >> Of Edward Maglott > > >> Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 10:38 AM > > >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > >> Subject: Re: Heat inside the camper.. No > > >> > > >> That's pretty interesting Don. How long do you think it took for the > > >> flame to start diminishing? Another physics question for the list is > at > > >> what % oxygen will that start happening to the stove flame. At least > > some > > >> of those propane heaters with oxygen depletion sensors work on the > same > > >> principle. the pilot light is what heats the thermocouple. as O2 > > declines > > >> the pilot flame shrinks until the thermocouple eventually shuts off > the > > gas > > >> due to low temp. > > >> > > >> I have "illegally" used the stove for heat while stealth camping but > not > > >> for very long. Usually just long enough to get dressed enough to go > > into > > >> the walmart/truckstop/whatever that I'm stealth camping at. when i > get > > >> back I start the engine and let it idle while I reconfigure for > driving. > > >> put front heater on cold so no coolant goes to that core and that rear > > >> heater will start putting out heat quite soon. > > >> Edward > > >> > > >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM, David Bjorkman < > ddbjorkman@verizon.net > > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> I too am a lover of that coffee pot heating the interior of the Westy > > >>> first thing in the AM. As a matter of fact, the lovely bride and I > > >>> usually set up the coffee the night before and whoever loses the buck > > >>> up in the AM has to jump out of bed and light the burner. By the > time > > >>> the coffee is ready, the cabin is warm and toasty and we get dressed. > > I > > >> Love my car. > > >>> BUT, we never leave it on longer than it takes to do the job, and the > > >>> top is open. I must admit we have, on very limited occasions, heated > > >>> a couple of kettles to almost boiling point in the bus to fend off > the > > >>> cold, thus allowing a heat source, but one must be very cognizant of > > >>> O2. Just being in the vehicle uses it up. There are better ways to > > >>> get a headache Than lack of oxygen. > > >>> > > >>> Dave B. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 01/03/15, Don Hanson wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Over many years and different vans, the majority VW, I've often used > > >>> my cook stove for quick heat. I've believed that my vans "leaked" > > >>> enough outside air that asphyxiation wasn't going to happen. This is > > >>> probably wrong, at least in my tin top camper. Just now, it being > > >>> around freezing in the pre-dawn desert SW, I brewed coffee and left > > >>> both westie stove burners on high for some heat as I watched the > > >>> sunrise .... I saw my burner's flame diminish and get thready. > Thought > > I > > >> was out of propane... > > >>> But I discovered that a kitchen match, the "strike and light > anywhere" > > >>> kind, that would not light! No O2 or too much co2....whatever, pretty > > >>> scary. I ran back the slider and let some air in, things burn normal > > >> again. > > >>> > > >>> So I believe the warning against using the cook top for cabin > > >> heat.,..now. > > >>> I just saw why. > > >> ----- > > >> No virus found in this message. > > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > >> Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8855 - Release Date: > > 01/02/15 > > >> > > >


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