Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 10:17:05 -0700
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Radius Rod Landing on Frame
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Jim
The Large DishedWashers are Supposed to Reside between the AdjustingNuts & the RubberBushings,
Not between the R'B's & the MountPlates (or Landings as Miguel has SoAptly called them) ~ There are Steps
around the IDs of the R'B's that are meant to fit into the LandingHoles to KeepThem InPlace ~
I also used the T3Tech Parts when I did mine in Jul2013 & Believe It to be a VeryWellDone Kit ~
Miguel
There was discussion of this issue back in Jan2013 & Dennis supplied a link to the Washer he uses to
do the Repair ~
"That hole really needs a weld repair. Here is a link to the washer I weld in
to repair this.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#93162A380
A 1-9/32" washer (1-1/8 bolt size) will also work.
Dennis"
ORR ~ DeanB
On 20 Jan , 2015, at 9:00 AM, Jim Felder wrote:
> In all this discussion on radius rods, I think that welding in washers is
> the way to go BUT you should take a look at the radius rod bushing kits I
> installed that come from T3 Techniques. Instead of having just two dished
> steel washers that can let the rod slip around in the hole, they have a
> two-piece machined aluminum part that looks like it would do a much more
> effective job of holding the rod in place, even if the hole was a bit
> compromised. And then, of course, you get the excellent properties of the
> poly bushing itself.
>
> I am going from memory here from an install over a year ago, but I recall
> thinking at the time that they could keep someone from having to weld
> washers in.
>
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Tim Mc Dermott <h2oboxer@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> When I did my 1985, the radius rod was worn from rubbing against the
>> frame. Not bad enough to be replaced, though.
>>
>> I purchased a replacement just in case, but did not need it.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:04 AM, Miguel Pacheco <mundopacheco@GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, got it. Perhaps a washer, of similar thickness and same ID, welded in
>>> place. I have to suggest that this is a very forgiving area. This van has
>>> held alignment, without unusual wear, for quite some time. The rust is
>>> formidable and I can only guess that if these components hold their
>>> positions after alignment, all will be well.
>>> Now the challenge is to remove the radius rods from their berths, at the
>>> lower control arms. I started my attempt at removal today, after soaking
>> in
>>> penetrating oil for two days, then hitting them with mapp gas. Not a hint
>>> of budging so far. These have to come out, as the bushing ends are
>>> destroyed by rust and wear.
>>> Thank you very much for all your help......
>>>
>>> *Miguel*
>>>
>>> *The free soul is rare, but you know it when you see it- basically
>> because
>>> you feel good, very good, when you are near or with them. *
>>> *- Charles Bukowski, Tales of Ordinary*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Also, in hindsight....
>>>> My assumption is that on an undamaged hole, when parts are assembled
>>>> the bushings end up close to, or touching, each other. Adding a new
>>>> metal plate might result in a gap
>>>> between each bushing lip. Even so. The metal sleeve should provide
>>>> ample protection.
>>>> If a gap between the rubber bushings resulted, my guess is that it
>>>> wouldn't be an issue,
>>>> even over the long term. Just something to consider IMO.
>>>>
>>>> Neil.
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/19/15, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> damage etc. on the '81 with link to repair at page bottom:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/tubaneil2/radiusarm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Neil n
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>
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