Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 11:39:02 -0600
Reply-To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Radius Rod Landing on Frame
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You're right about the big washers. I couldn't visualize where they went
when I wrote that. The T3s are a very good design, though, aren't they?
Jim
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:17 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
> Jim
>
> The Large DishedWashers are Supposed to Reside between the
> AdjustingNuts & the RubberBushings,
>
> Not between the R'B's & the MountPlates (or Landings as Miguel has SoAptly
> called them) ~ There are Steps
>
> around the IDs of the R'B's that are meant to fit into the LandingHoles to
> KeepThem InPlace ~
>
> I also used the T3Tech Parts when I did mine in Jul2013 & Believe
> It to be a VeryWellDone Kit ~
>
>
> Miguel
>
> There was discussion of this issue back in Jan2013 & Dennis
> supplied a link to the Washer he uses to
>
> do the Repair ~
>
> "That hole really needs a weld repair. Here is a
> link to the washer I weld in
> to repair this.
>
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#93162A380
>
> A 1-9/32" washer (1-1/8 bolt size) will also work.
>
> Dennis"
>
>
>
>
> ORR ~ DeanB
>
>
> On 20 Jan , 2015, at 9:00 AM, Jim Felder wrote:
>
> > In all this discussion on radius rods, I think that welding in washers is
> > the way to go BUT you should take a look at the radius rod bushing kits I
> > installed that come from T3 Techniques. Instead of having just two dished
> > steel washers that can let the rod slip around in the hole, they have a
> > two-piece machined aluminum part that looks like it would do a much more
> > effective job of holding the rod in place, even if the hole was a bit
> > compromised. And then, of course, you get the excellent properties of the
> > poly bushing itself.
> >
> > I am going from memory here from an install over a year ago, but I recall
> > thinking at the time that they could keep someone from having to weld
> > washers in.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Tim Mc Dermott <h2oboxer@verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> When I did my 1985, the radius rod was worn from rubbing against the
> >> frame. Not bad enough to be replaced, though.
> >>
> >> I purchased a replacement just in case, but did not need it.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:04 AM, Miguel Pacheco <mundopacheco@GMAIL.COM>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ok, got it. Perhaps a washer, of similar thickness and same ID, welded
> in
> >>> place. I have to suggest that this is a very forgiving area. This van
> has
> >>> held alignment, without unusual wear, for quite some time. The rust is
> >>> formidable and I can only guess that if these components hold their
> >>> positions after alignment, all will be well.
> >>> Now the challenge is to remove the radius rods from their berths, at
> the
> >>> lower control arms. I started my attempt at removal today, after
> soaking
> >> in
> >>> penetrating oil for two days, then hitting them with mapp gas. Not a
> hint
> >>> of budging so far. These have to come out, as the bushing ends are
> >>> destroyed by rust and wear.
> >>> Thank you very much for all your help......
> >>>
> >>> *Miguel*
> >>>
> >>> *The free soul is rare, but you know it when you see it- basically
> >> because
> >>> you feel good, very good, when you are near or with them. *
> >>> *- Charles Bukowski, Tales of Ordinary*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, in hindsight....
> >>>> My assumption is that on an undamaged hole, when parts are assembled
> >>>> the bushings end up close to, or touching, each other. Adding a new
> >>>> metal plate might result in a gap
> >>>> between each bushing lip. Even so. The metal sleeve should provide
> >>>> ample protection.
> >>>> If a gap between the rubber bushings resulted, my guess is that it
> >>>> wouldn't be an issue,
> >>>> even over the long term. Just something to consider IMO.
> >>>>
> >>>> Neil.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 1/19/15, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> damage etc. on the '81 with link to repair at page bottom:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/tubaneil2/radiusarm
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Neil n
> >>>>
> >>>> Blog: Vanagons, Westfalia, general <http://tubaneil.blogspot.ca>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1988 Westy Images <https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/New1988Westy
> >
> >>>>
> >>>> 1981 Westfalia "Jaco" Images, technical <
> >> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/>
> >>>>
> >>>> Vanagon-Bus VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>
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