Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:23:51 -0600
Reply-To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: alternator charge initiation
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So, if there is a way to add a resistor or capacitor to the wiring to prove
the "blip" I would like to know what it is.
Jim
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@cfu.net>
wrote:
> On 1/20/2015 1:26 PM, Mark McCulley wrote:
>
>> I read somewhere that the ICU is supposed to provide that initial blip
>> on startup.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Max Wellhouse
>> <dimwittedmoose@cfu.net <mailto:dimwittedmoose@cfu.net>> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/20/2015 1:00 PM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
>>
>> My son's van came with that installed, and I'm tempted to cut
>> it open to find out what's in it. It feels like a large
>> resistor, and somehow it routes extra voltage or current to
>> activate the alternator quicker.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>> <mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>] On Behalf Of Edward Maglott
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 10:43 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Subject: Re: alternator charge initiation
>>
>> Interesting. I've seen that symptom on VWs for years, maybe
>> decades. I
>> wonder what that GoWesty device has in it, if anything? If I
>> were more
>> annoyed by needing to blip the throttle I would figure it out
>> and make my
>> own. Maybe it just connects the blue and black wires?
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Jim Felder
>> <jim.felder@gmail.com <mailto:jim.felder@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting. Looking at the installation drawings on the
>> GoWesty site, it
>> looks like this product is made to work with the
>> Waterboxer motors (the
>> article on the product specifically states that it won't
>> work with
>> air-cooled vanagons). But what about diesels? I think they
>> all have that
>> "need to blip" issue--my certainly always has--but if I
>> recall correctly,
>> the diesels need an adjustable output voltage regulator.
>> At least that has
>> been mentioned.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Mark McCulley
>> <markmcculley@gmail.com <mailto:markmcculley@gmail.com>>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ever since I replaced my alternator I've needed to
>> blip the throttle
>>
>> after
>>
>> starting to get the Alt light to go out. This happens
>> about 50% of time.
>>
>> I
>>
>> never had to do this with the old alternator. The new
>> one was a Bosch
>> rebuild. I do have a solenoid in the circuit for cabin
>> battery charging
>>
>> but
>>
>> the problem persists even if I switch out that solenoid.
>>
>> Did I get a bum alternator? I see GoWesty makes a
>> little harness to fix
>> this problem
>> (http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=24031) but
>> would like to understand why I have a problem that
>> never existed before
>> replacing the alternator.
>>
>> -Mark
>>
>> '87 Syncro Westy
>> FUNHAUS
>>
>> I
>> 've wondered why my 90GL has developed that problem as well, and was
>> wondeirng if a weaky attached alternator bracket would keep belt
>> tension
>> from being as it should and blipping the throttle would torque the
>> motor
>> enough to get the belt to stick a bit better. Also thought maybe the
>> voltage regulator might be going south.....cheaper than a full
>> alternator replacement i guess.....
>>
>> DM&FS
>>
>>
>> Maybe a capacitor that "stores" some voltage for start up???
>
> BTW, I know nothing about electronics, but dsome of the car stereo
> freaks use really big capacitors to store voltage for their really high
> powered competition stereo systems.. Just thinking out loud...which will
> get me into trouble eventually....
>
> DM&FS
>
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