Date:         Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:29:09 -0800
Reply-To:     Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tips on replacing Temp 2 sensor The easy way!
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
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I'll try that, and hope it doesn't fly away somewhere and hide, like the
head rest clip I pulled.

I'll have a 5 gallon bucket underneath too, just in case.

Stuart

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Haynes [mailto:d23haynes57@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 3:15 PM
To: 'Stuart MacMillan'; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: RE: Tips on replacing Temp 2 sensor The easy way!

I usually put them in from the front. You can reach around and a small
screwdriver will pop it out.

Dennis


-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Stuart MacMillan
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 5:50 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Tips on replacing Temp 2 sensor The easy way!

I had to replace all that other stuff just to get it running to the point I
could even see other problems.

Unfortunately, the clip is inserted from the front, so I'll likely have to
get under it.

I keep telling my son that if I can't fix it nobody can, and he's seen me do
this successfully his whole life.

However, there may be a really nice '87 Westy for sale soon (complete with
intractable gremlins) if I can't.

If he'd had the money, a Subaru would have gone straight in.

Stuart

-----Original Message-----
From: OlRivrRat [mailto:OlRivrRat@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:37 PM
To: Stuart MacMillan
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM; 'Jim Felder'; 'Neil N'; Dennis Haynes
Subject: Re: Tips on replacing Temp 2 sensor The easy way!

                Stuart

        DHs suggestion to clamp the XTank Hoses is a GoodOne ~ But I have
changed

Several of those T2Snsrs & the T1s & have never lost more than a Cup of
Coolant &

due to my 36"Arms & SkinnyHands I am able to do the Job FromTheTop ~ You
just

need to be Prepared & BeQuickAboutIt ~

        Hope you get this issue resolved as it sounds as if you've got a
PrettyCompletely

ReFurb'd Van there ~ I believe I would have chosen to have the Temp2 & O2
Snsrs @

the TopOfTheList though ~ After CheckingAllGrounds of course ~

                                                        ORR ~ DeanB


On 26 Jan , 2015, at 1:01 PM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:

> Great tips, thanks all!
>
> Unfortunately, there have been so many run problems with this van
> (he's been stranded twice) my son has no confidence in it, which is
> unfortunate, since I encouraged him to buy it.  So, with these last
> two items I'll have replaced almost everything:
>
> Starter (Go Westy gear reduction)
> Alternator
> Alternator wiring to starter (Go Westy kit)
> Grounds: Cleaned connections in engine compartment, replaced battery
> ground strap and checked transmission ground strap Fuel lines Fuel
> pump & filter Set throttle switch Cleaned throttle body Checked AFM
> resistance Checked for vacuum leaks Rebuilt injectors Replaced idle
> control module Capacitor fix in AFM New tune-up parts and set timing
> PO put in a GT rebuild AT, water pump, battery, and replaced the fuel
> tank vent lines and grommets.
>
> Only thing left after O2 and Temp 2 is the idle control valve, which
> checks out as far as I can tell.
>
> I'm hoping we can drive it around town for a few hundred miles and get
> he gets his confidence back with "everything new".
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Haynes [mailto:d23haynes57@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 11:11 AM
> To: 'Stuart MacMillan'; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: RE: Tips on replacing Temp 2 sensor The easy way!
>
> Engine cold
> Pinch hose or plug overflow vent on pressure cap. If air can't get in
> coolant won't flow out.
> Prep new sensor with O-ring.
> Remove clip.
> Quickly remove sensor, look for O-ring. Reach in and remove if stuck.
> Insert new sensor with O-ring.
> Insert clip.
> Remove plug/cap.
> Remove pressure cap. Top off coolant.
> Replace cap and connect hose.
>
> Done.
> You should only loose a quart or so this way.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of Stuart MacMillan
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 11:54 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Tips on replacing Temp 2 sensor
>
> Still chasing bugs in my son's '87, and I'm going to replace it and
> the O2 sensor.  It's got erratic high idle, stumbling when cold, and I
> think it's running rich when warmed up.
>
>
>
> Just wondering if there is a way to minimize coolant loss.
>
>
>
> There are a lot of pipes into the T-stat housing, and I can't clamp
> them all off.  And, does the O-ring tend to stay in the bore and need
> to be hooked out, or will it come out with the old sender? I'm going
> to
replace it.
>
>
>
> I may just use this as an excuse to flush and replace the coolant if
> I'm going to lose a lot anyway.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Stuart
>