Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:32:46 -0600
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From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Fri. Generator rant.
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Not all National Forests are consistent with their rules regarding open camping. On some forests, a portion of the land may be designated open camping, while in more heavily used districts camping is more restricted. Look on the website for a given forest, and look for "open camping," or information about camping in undeveloped areas. Generally, the less heavily used an area is, the more likely it is to have open camping.
New Mexico and Texas forests are particularly friendly toward open camping, while in Arkansas, almost no national forests allows open camping in any area.
mcneely
---- KIM BRENNAN <kimbrennan@mac.com> wrote:
> Each National Forest has its own rules, so you have to check ahead of time what their camping rules are. Even with the same state different National Forests may have different rules. (Pretty sure that a National Forest that crosses state boundaries keeps the same rules in all states.)
>
> > On Feb 6, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:
> >
> > Alistair, please notice, I said "WHEN I go to campgrounds ..... ." When I can find a non-campground location, I use that. But please be aware that the largest public lands ownership in the U.S. is the U.S. Forest Service. Next is Bureau of Land Management. Both agencies have, on some of their properties, a policy of "Camp only in designated areas." On others they allow "open" camping. If the property is one where one must use a designated camping area, that is usually a campground.
> >
> > Water from that burbling brook I mentioned is always my preference, even when piped water is present.
> >
> > mcneely
> >
> > ---- Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> If you want to really get away, don't go to campsites then any noise you make only bothers you.
> >>
> >> I guess I'm spoiled up here, but we seldom stay at campsites. We can get away to places where there are no others.
> >>
> >> Piped water, what's that? :)
> >>
> >> U.S. Military surplus canvas bucket and a rope is our way.
> >>
> >> I'm teasing of course, but my point is " horses for courses" . You can't really make a statement about generators and noise etc.
> >>
> >> Alistair
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well Don, you made your point, I suppose. Maybe a better appeal would be to point out the burbling brooks, singing birds, and the simple joy of nature. Oh, I forget, they went camping to watch television.
> >>>
> >>> Many campgrounds have "silent times," but these generally don't start until 10 p.m., and end in early morning. In other words, the noise generators are free to disrupt the best part of the day.
> >>>
> >>> When I go to campgrounds, I choose "primitive" ones when possible, even opting for those without piped water over those with. Keeps the riff raff out.
> >>>
> >>> mcneely
> >>>
> >>> ---- Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>>> Again I must comment on how selfish it is to "camp" with your generator
> >>>> on. Plug your ears, stick out your tongue and yell "La LA LA..." at high
> >>>> volume so you don't have to "hear" what I'm saying here, but there it is!
> >>>>
> >>>> Deny deny deny, but your generator noise DOES completely eliminate the
> >>>> peace and quiet that many people go camping to find. Is it fair to impose
> >>>> your noise on everyone around you? No it is not.
> >>>>
> >>>> I know that most people don't even get out into the country very often
> >>>> and fewer yet think their generators make any noise at all, but they really
> >>>> do.
> >>>> The natural world is getting full, I know, but dang!...There's Solar and
> >>>> batteries that do not impose on others who may value no unneeded noise, and
> >>>> nobody NEEDS to listen to a generator.
> >>>>
> >>>> OK you all who Generate....You can unplug your ears and stop going "LA la
> >>>> LA LA LA!" now, my annual anti-generator rap is done...hit the starter
> >>>> button and go outside by your exhaust pipe and enjoy your camping...
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> David McNeely
> >
> > --
> > David McNeely
>
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David McNeely
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