Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:31:29 -0800
Reply-To: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: NVC [Friday] Natural Gas regulator
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Stuart -- thank for suggestion but grillparts.com doesn't list the model
-- a "Superb by Broilmaster" Model SBH200-1 Natural Gas Grill.
Near as I can tell, Broilmaster sold those w/o regulators to
distributors who bunged in whatever regulator they had on hand, as the
regulator is not in the owner/assembly manual's part number listing and
shown only as a generic circular object labeled "regulator" in the
assembly illustration.
Phil, good point.
We had a serviceman out here a couple years ago to diagnose a stove
problem in the house and he measured the pressure and it was spot on at
7'' W.C. and the stove has not changed behavior since then so I suspect
that the natural gas pressure is still good.
The regulator on this BBQ is marked: "GLOBAL Model 7010 PSIG 1/2, Nat
4''-LPG 10'' "
Which suggests a further step-down in pressure from 7'' W.C. to 4'' W.C.
(How the regulator could be marked for two pressures begs a question:
how does it know what kind of gas it is being fed so it can select
between the two output pressures?)
I suppose I /could/ try bypassing it, but the resulting flames from the
burners might be more spectacular than normal, and unlikely to be the
proper fuel / air ratio for a clean burn.
Googling isn't helping find this part. Robertshaw makes a few kits that
are said to fit the 7010 series of regulators, one labeled for dual
fuels (but sez lpg 3.5'' and ng 11'') so it's not a solid fit although
it does look physically like this device.
Oh well, it's not Friday and this grill ain't a Vanagon and we can't
pretend that it somehow qualifies for listworthiness because it's not
even a propane grill. I'll have to keep looking. Many thanks, all.
--
Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
Bend, Ore.
On 02/21/2015 11:18 AM, Phil Zimmerman wrote:
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 15:47:06 -0800
> Reply-To: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
>
> On the barbecue. No, not a propane regulator, but a natural gas regulator.
>
> ------ Sometimes the regulator packs up and won't
> open when the wall spigot is opened. I have to smack it with a spanner*
> a couple times, and that don't always work, either……
> ---------------
>
> Jack,
>
> The above reads kinda strange..
> Why another regulator on the natural gas (NG) line to your natural gas barbie?
> The NG system in your house already has a regulator at the main gas meter..
>
> A NG spigot on a patio usually has a shut-off valve but not a regulator.
>
> NG runs at 3 inches of water column which is really low pressure. If the existing regulator
> is sticking… this needs to be checked out…. and removed if redundant?
>
> Perhaps time for a licensed gas fitter to be called in to check this out…
> Unless Jack wants to play mister science guy and mess around making a nanometer
> to check the NG supply pressure at the patio gas line spigot..
>
> Pz
> hiding under his rock off the West Coast
> (safe from NG explosions emitting from Bend, Oregon)
>
> ===========
> * I use a natural gas regulator spanner, of course, not a propane
> regulator spanner. Different ratings.
> (yes, NG 3" of Water Column, LP 10-13" of WC)
>