Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:18:57 -0700
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Rear seat comfort on a Vanagon Westy? Head restraints
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Just ThrowingItOutThere as a DIY Idea ~ Wasn't asking if anyone would buy one if Someone
Manufactured it ~
On 27 Feb , 2015, at 1:03 PM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
> That would require NHTSA approval (crash testing). No conversion company
> would go there, so it would have to be engineered into the production van.
> The EVC (Winnebago) does have a tiny and practically useless under seat
> storage bin that I think the restraints will fit into, but I don't remember.
> One of the many reasons I've come back to the Vanagon Westy.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OlRivrRat [mailto:OlRivrRat@comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:35 AM
> To: Stuart MacMillan
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Rear seat comfort on a Vanagon Westy? Head restraints
>
> How about a Mechanism that is AttachedTo & SuspendedFrom the TheRoof
> (StorageCabinet Bottom) that could be Hinged Up
>
> OutOfTheWay WhenNotNeeded & SwungDown & Attached to the SeatBack when
> Passengers are Present ~
>
>
> ORR ~ DeanB
>
>
> On 27 Feb , 2015, at 11:51 AM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
>
>> The EVC's are removable. There is no way to accommodate a head restraint
> and a fold down bed, unless the restraints retract into the seat back, and
> that would be an expensive proposition.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Dave Mcneely
>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 9:26 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Rear seat comfort on a Vanagon Westy? Head restraints
>>
>> Seems that there should be a seat configuration that included head rests
> that would work as a bed. I have little familiarity with the Eurovan. How
> are those rear seats set up in the camper? Do they have integral head
> rests, or removable ones?
>>
>> mcneely
>>
>> ---- Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> Back then they were only required on the front seats along with shoulder
> belts. Passenger Vanagons didn't get the rear head rests until 88 or 89,
> along with should belts back there. The Vanagon even the non-camper is
> considered a multi-purpose passenger vehicle so it did escape a number of
> safety requirements. In general VW did wait as long as possible to put
> safety features on the busses including not getting the j-bead wheels until
> 1971.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Stuart MacMillan
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 8:21 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Rear seat comfort on a Vanagon Westy?
>>>
>>> That's fine for the van, but the head restraint keeps you from breaking
> your neck in a severe rear-ender. 30 mph can be severe if you are waiting
> at a stoplight. It's also another reason to make sure the seat bottom latch
> is in good working order so the seat doesn't fold down with a passenger in
> it. It's a very beefy mechanism for that reason.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> VW must have used a camper van loophole for the Westy back seat, because
> head restraints have been required on passenger cars since 1969.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: John Rodgers [mailto:jrodgers113@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:16 PM
>>> To: Stuart MacMillan
>>> Cc: Vanagon mailing list; Dennis Haynes
>>> Subject: Re: Rear seat comfort on a Vanagon Westy?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A good Dennis Haynes trailer hitch proves some protection in case of
> being rear-ended. Not totally, but some. The hitch has a cross bar that
> mounts to the frame of the Vanagon with three large bolts on each side, very
> stout. The whole thing will absorb a lot of energy before buckling in the
> event of an accident. Might be enough to reduce the energy of an impact
> somewhat before it enters into the body work itself, so repair would be
> possible, whereas otherwise it would be improbable. Mine has saved my Van a
> couple of times.
>>>
>>> On Feb 25, 2015 10:59 AM, "Stuart MacMillan" <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> In addition to adding shoulder belts (like Go Westy's) I'm adding head
> restraints this way: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=303299
> <http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=303299&highlight=vwbusshop
>> &highlight=vwbusshop
>>>
>>> I got a couple of trashed seats for $50 for the head restraints and
> plastic tubes.
>>>
>>> The '80s were a different time. Today, with so many distracted drivers,
> rear end collisions are on the increase.
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>
>> --
>> David McNeely
>
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