Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:03:21 -0800
Reply-To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Rear seat comfort on a Vanagon Westy? Head restraints
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That would require NHTSA approval (crash testing). No conversion company
would go there, so it would have to be engineered into the production van.
The EVC (Winnebago) does have a tiny and practically useless under seat
storage bin that I think the restraints will fit into, but I don't remember.
One of the many reasons I've come back to the Vanagon Westy.
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: OlRivrRat [mailto:OlRivrRat@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:35 AM
To: Stuart MacMillan
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Rear seat comfort on a Vanagon Westy? Head restraints
How about a Mechanism that is AttachedTo & SuspendedFrom the TheRoof
(StorageCabinet Bottom) that could be Hinged Up
OutOfTheWay WhenNotNeeded & SwungDown & Attached to the SeatBack when
Passengers are Present ~
ORR ~ DeanB
On 27 Feb , 2015, at 11:51 AM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
> The EVC's are removable. There is no way to accommodate a head restraint
and a fold down bed, unless the restraints retract into the seat back, and
that would be an expensive proposition.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Dave Mcneely
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 9:26 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Rear seat comfort on a Vanagon Westy? Head restraints
>
> Seems that there should be a seat configuration that included head rests
that would work as a bed. I have little familiarity with the Eurovan. How
are those rear seats set up in the camper? Do they have integral head
rests, or removable ones?
>
> mcneely
>
> ---- Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> Back then they were only required on the front seats along with shoulder
belts. Passenger Vanagons didn't get the rear head rests until 88 or 89,
along with should belts back there. The Vanagon even the non-camper is
considered a multi-purpose passenger vehicle so it did escape a number of
safety requirements. In general VW did wait as long as possible to put
safety features on the busses including not getting the j-bead wheels until
1971.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Stuart MacMillan
>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 8:21 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Rear seat comfort on a Vanagon Westy?
>>
>> That's fine for the van, but the head restraint keeps you from breaking
your neck in a severe rear-ender. 30 mph can be severe if you are waiting
at a stoplight. It's also another reason to make sure the seat bottom latch
is in good working order so the seat doesn't fold down with a passenger in
it. It's a very beefy mechanism for that reason.
>>
>>
>>
>> VW must have used a camper van loophole for the Westy back seat, because
head restraints have been required on passenger cars since 1969.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>
>> From: John Rodgers [mailto:jrodgers113@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:16 PM
>> To: Stuart MacMillan
>> Cc: Vanagon mailing list; Dennis Haynes
>> Subject: Re: Rear seat comfort on a Vanagon Westy?
>>
>>
>>
>> A good Dennis Haynes trailer hitch proves some protection in case of
being rear-ended. Not totally, but some. The hitch has a cross bar that
mounts to the frame of the Vanagon with three large bolts on each side, very
stout. The whole thing will absorb a lot of energy before buckling in the
event of an accident. Might be enough to reduce the energy of an impact
somewhat before it enters into the body work itself, so repair would be
possible, whereas otherwise it would be improbable. Mine has saved my Van a
couple of times.
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2015 10:59 AM, "Stuart MacMillan" <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> In addition to adding shoulder belts (like Go Westy's) I'm adding head
restraints this way: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=303299
<http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=303299&highlight=vwbusshop
> &highlight=vwbusshop
>>
>> I got a couple of trashed seats for $50 for the head restraints and
plastic tubes.
>>
>> The '80s were a different time. Today, with so many distracted drivers,
rear end collisions are on the increase.
>>
>> Stuart
>
> --
> David McNeely
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