Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 09:48:30 -0500
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: CV joint raceway opinion
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Seen that many a time. Syncros like to do that on the front outers.
Dennis
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dick Wong
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 5:30 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: CV joint raceway opinion
Not sure on the looseness thing, which is why I decided to change them. I have never had a CV joint fail on me. When I changed factory CVs on my Scirocco at 150K miles, they were still tight.
I’ve never seen a ball cage split like that.
-Dick-
From: Robert Keezer [mailto:warmerwagen@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 1:20 PM
To: Dick Wong; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: CV joint raceway opinion
Is there any knowledge concerning this looseness increasing the risk of CV joint failure?
I serviced a CV axle on my 92 Golf last summer by replacing the boots and regreasing , and the inner CV joint drivers side failed last Thursday. Vanagons are heavier but use basically the same 100 mm CV joint, and put much more strain on the joints than on a VW sedan of the same vintage.
When servicing the axles on the Golf I had to toss a CV joint after I took it apart and reassembled it. The balls were out of round and because I changed the original order, the joint went from being very loose to very tight.
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Finally got to the inner CV of the same shaft and it has two ball races with pitting. One on one and two on another. Both joints are also very "loose"
in the sense that the inner race and cage will slide axially just by slightly tilting the outer race to the left or right.
So this is my threshold, since both joints have pitting, both joints show some wear, both joints are "loose" and I don't want to open up this half-shaft again for a while, I'm buying new joints.
Thanks for all the insight and input.
-Dick Wong-
78 Scirocco
Original Owner
87 Vanagon Syncro 2.5 (Blaze)
Third Owner
12 Golf TDI
Original Co-Owner
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> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Dick Wong <sailingfc@dslextreme.com>
wrote:
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>> Hello Vanapeeps,
>>
>> Took off one of the rear axles on my '87 Syncro to replace the inner
>> CV boot. Inspected the outer CV joint and found that it has one pit
>> mark on one of the races. No other pits. There is no rotational
>> play that I can detect, but the ball cage moves freely. I did not
>> detect any noise when it was in the vehicle. All the balls look
>> fine. I have no idea how many miles are on the joint. It is an OEM
>> Lobro joint (VW Audi markings).
>> Serviceable
>> joint or should I replace it?
>>
>> Here are some pics. The "pit" pictures are of the same "pit", just
>> from both sides. http://tinyurl.com/ndsz9xr
>> <http://tinyurl.com/ndsz9xr> The other pictures are just to show the wear marks.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Dick Wong-
>> 78 Scirocco
>> Original Owner
>> 87 Vanagon Syncro 2.5 (Blaze)
>> Third Owner
>> 12 Golf TDI
>> Original Co-Owner
>>
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