Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 12:05:15 -0700
Reply-To: John Goubeaux <john@UCSB.EDU>
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From: John Goubeaux <john@UCSB.EDU>
Organization: UCSB
Subject: Re: No Start Scenario, burned out pin D15 !
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Thanks,
VW dealer here in my town can get a "000 979 211E" ( they say the E
is for improved - but @ 19.95 I say more likely E xpensive )
I ordered one, AND as you said, it IS TWO connectors attached with a
wire, which can be cut to use on the panel.
-john
On 3/13/15 8:58 PM, mark drillock wrote:
> The same pins were used on many VW and Audi models. Some years ago I
> bought a variety of pins from my local dealer so I could do these kinds
> of repairs when I needed to. They sold them as a short piece of wire
> with an identical pin crimped on each end. Each size pin is available
> with a variety of gauge wire attached and there is a different part
> number for each combination. Unfortunately the parts numbers have faded
> out on the packages so I can't read them anymore.
>
> Looking at the VW Parts Data,
> it seems the smaller female pin is 000 979 208 with a 2.5mm gauge wire
> it seems the larger female pin is 000 979 211 with a 2.5mm gauge wire
>
> I think these are the ones but I'm not positive.
>
> You can always scavenge a used one from another VW or Audi but you need
> the special tool to pop the pin out of the housing.
>
> There is another work around you can do to the harness near the
> fuse/relay panel. Jumper between the black wire on pin A8 and the black
> wire at D15. Don't cut the wire to pin A8 since it feeds other things
> through the panel. You can cut the wire to D15 and wrap it around the
> wire at A8, then solder. Then wrap well with tape. The black wires have
> no fuse protection!
>
> Mark
>
> John Goubeaux wrote:
>> OK, So I pulled the main fuse panel and removed the "D" connector and
>> my D15 pin looks a lot like the one posted here: ( burned up )
>>
>> http://shufti.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/vanagon-d15-connector-issue/
>>
>> I guess I could clean it up a bit and get it to conduct some more (
>> might do that just to prove it WAS the culprit ) BUT looks like the best
>> long term option is to use pin D23 as folks suggest.
>>
>> SO, per this clip pasted below, ( I believe from Mark via a discussion
>> on the Samba) I'd like to do just what he suggests.
>>
>>
>> Q: What do I need to ask for from my VW dealer, presuming they DO have
>> this larger molex connector ? Is their a size # Is the part guy gonna
>> know ?
>>
>>
>> "The fix is simple and vendors should sell a kit for it. VW sells spare
>> pins with a few inches of wire on the end. Cut the black wire from D15.
>> Solder it to the wire on the new pin, heatshrink the connection. Insert
>> the new bigger pin in the empty hole at D23."
>>
>>
>> -john
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/13/15 11:00 AM, John Goubeaux wrote:
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> I did finally find the "definitive thread" on the topic:
>>>
>>> "D15 Connector revealed"
>>>
>>> http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind1111a&L=vanagon&D=0&F=P&P=5168
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While I have not had time to pull the fwd main fuse panel and
>>> inspect, I
>>> will be surprised IF this is NOT the source of the problem.
>>>
>>> ALL looks good in the engine compartment wiring box though.
>>>
>>> I will inspect the fwd panel this weekend and will No doubt have a
>>> question on how to repair what I find.
>>>
>>>
>>> Happy Friday !!
>>>
>>> -john
>>>
>>>
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