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Date:         Fri, 3 Apr 2015 13:03:43 -0700
Reply-To:     "Mudd \"Not Jack\" Sparrow" <rummaging@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         "Mudd \"Not Jack\" Sparrow" <rummaging@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pass front seat bed or other 3rd bed ideas?
Comments: To: Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA>
In-Reply-To:  <599236599.5310460.1428079426633.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
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Dude you need a bunk bed.

The front seat idea isn't worthwhile.

> On Apr 3, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA> wrote: > > Here are some pictures of a 180cm (6' thermarest) put in different hypothetical "bed" positions in the front of the vanagon. > > Across the seats: With doors closed there's about 150cm (5') between the doors, so this only works for short people. > http://webdocs.cs.ualberta.ca/~jag/Pictures/IMG_20150403_100000_sm.JPG > > Diagonally: Still doesn't fit the whole 6' thermarest, but gives a bit more space. Would be a more complex to build a bed base for.. > http://webdocs.cs.ualberta.ca/~jag/Pictures/IMG_20150403_095638_sm.JPG > > Front-to-back. Here the full thermarest fits. > http://webdocs.cs.ualberta.ca/~jag/Pictures/IMG_20150403_094633_sm.JPG > > As I mentioned before another family take out the front seat and made a plywood bed to put here. Then the front seat has to be stored during night, and the plywood bed during trips. > > I hope there's some intermediate modification, so that it is quick to put in the bed, and no bulky parts to store. > > Thanks for the tip that the Eurovan seat folds flat. Does it fold flat without a "bump"/ridge between the seatback and bottom? Anyone tried if that fits well in a vanagon? (same rail system? Or requires cutting and welding?) > > I agree that messing with the Vanagon seatback mechanism could be dangerous. What I had thought of was if there was a way to keep the cam mechanism for driving, but look for a way that the seatback could be popped out of the cam mechanism for folding, them put back for driving. (So not inventing a new mechanism) During assembly, disassembly obviously the seatback is put in place. > > Martin > > > On Friday, April 3, 2015 9:42 AM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Don't mess with the seat back tilt, that mechanism is structural for safety in a rear end collision. You don't want that seat breaking and launching a passenger backwards. The seat is easy to remove, it just slides off the front of the swivel, so you could build a folding plywood platform with folding legs to put over the swivel. It could run from the glove box to the end of the seat bed if you want. > > Put the seat outside under a tarp and you have your bed solution. > > The hammock over the seats can also work if you roll down the window and let your feet extend. A friend did that for his son until he was about 14, at least when it wasn't raining! > > Stuart > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Poppie Jagersand > Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 8:27 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Pass front seat bed or other 3rd bed ideas? > >> My daughter currently sleeps in a hammock across the front seats: >> >> http://webdocs.cs.ualberta.ca/~jag/Pictures/1406GerSwedenSelect/IMG_20 >> 140605_074726_sm.JPG That works for a kid up to about 150cm. >> >> Does anyone have suggestions for how to create a longer 3rd bed up front?

>> >> I saw a family who each night took out the passenger front seat and >> put in a plywood bed extending backwards partway across the sliding >> door. However, taking out the seat is tedious and creates a storage problem for it. >> >> If the back of the passenger seat could be made to fold all the way >> back flat I was thinking a small extension in the front could make it >> a bed. (Or swirvel the seat and make an extension towards the rear) >> >> Something like appears to have been done here in a small station wagon >> (Mini) >> >> http://caravanlounge.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/17d66970-d27c-0130- >> f62a-00163e2e85a5.jpg >> >> So would it be possible to modify the vanagon seat so it folds more >> than 30degrees? The cam mechanism looks non-trivial. Is the seatback >> tilting mechanism the same for 82-84 and 85+? >> >> Thanks, >> Martin >>


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