Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 05:22:41 -0700
Reply-To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: SoCal lane splitting coming to WA?
In-Reply-To: <27f501d06f4f$758d5300$60a7f900$@hiwaay.net>
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Motorcyclists call enclosed vehicles "Cages" sometimes. Perhaps the
Cage-drivers are mad at a motorcyclist because they are just mad at
everything, and seeing someone roll ahead of THEM...they often simply flip
out...
It is much worse, the Cage-Rage, when you are on a pedal bike....You would
not believe some of the nasty, off the wall stuff I have encountered,
coming from motorists, over the years, as a bicyclist.
As for people "seeing" you when you are on a motorcycle....I think there
must be a disconnect between eyes and brain in some drivers...It is
frequent that drivers will *see* a motorcycle coming along and simply blow
off the fact that bike is there. You can even see it happening..They look
right, they look left..see you coming, look right again and then they just
pull out anyhow...They will also often pass with bikes coming at them in
the oncoming traffic lane (this one happens very frequently), .and simply
engage the "Tonnage Rule" if they think at all........They figure THEY
aren't going to be killed or maimed if the motorcyclist does not get out of
THEIR way, so "F-em" seems to be the normal mindset amongst a lot of
Cagers..
Vanagon content?...Hmmm, Ahhh! "Normal" drivers do the same thing to
Vanagons....Notice that?...They will see us coming and pull out right in
front of you...
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> I have no problem at all with a car pulling up in the next lane. It's his
> lane.
>
> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
> Of Mudd “Not Jack” Sparrow
> Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 5:20 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: SoCal lane splitting coming to WA?
>
> Are you okay if a woman with a shopping cart pulls up next to you?
>
> The post didn't specify same lane.
>
>
> > On Apr 4, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET> wrote:
> >
> > I ride, and if some car or van pulled up beside me I'd be pretty pissed.
> >
> > Now, if another bike pulled up beside me I'd be OK - there's enough room
> for two bikes in one lane.
> >
> > Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On
> > Behalf Of Jeff Palmer
> > Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 1:29 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: SoCal lane splitting coming to WA?
> >
> > There was a motorcycle stopped at a red light so I pulled up beside him.
> Apparently that is discouraged.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Apr 4, 2015, at 9:50 AM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Friday extension:
> >>
> >> WA is considering allowing this, now that the Seattle metro area has
> the nation's third worst traffic. I doubt it will pass, but it will
> someday. We can have 60 miles of stop and go traffic on I-5 in the
> afternoons. Here is the idea:
> >>
> >> "Washington state's proposed law would allow motorcyclists to
> occasionally ride the stripes between cars when traffic is moving under 25
> mph. Because it would be limited to traffic jams, bikers could not travel
> more than 35 mph at their top speed when passing between lanes."
> >>
> >> Full article:
> >> http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Controversial-bill-would-allow-mot
> >> o rcycles-to-pass-between-lanes-290652671.html
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Don Hanson
> >> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 10:09 PM
> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> Subject: Re: SoCal
> >>
> >> I have to say that after a few months near the LA/San Diego/Tijuana
> metroplex and spending a bit of time on those freeways.....riding a moto
> amongst those drivers....that takes some brass ones. And yet, there are a
> lot of bikes out there, zipping around, passing the cars that are also
> >> going 80.....if it is not grid lock at the time. I see no valid reason
> >> that riders should be prohibited from splitting lanes....it's their
> life....and it doesn't slow the rest of us down....unless they get
> smooshed....that doesn't seem to happen much....surprisingly....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Jim Arnott <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What Greg said. BTDT. (Actually kinda miss it. It’s a great skills
> >>> test.) And it is quite legal in LA(Dick’s link is a great one:
> >>> https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/about/lane_splitting )
> >>> There’s a 5’ wide lane there. The trick is to watch the other
> >>> drivers and be past them before they know you’re there. Keep all the
> >>> traffic moving the same direction. (As taught to me by a CHP Motor
> >>> Officer.)
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 5:45 PM, KI4TLF <ki4tlf@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> So they can get somewhere when everyone else is parked on the
> interstate.
> >>>>
> >>>> GregM
> >
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