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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:44:41 +0000
Reply-To:     "L. Chris Hager" <carolusandhager@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "L. Chris Hager" <carolusandhager@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: vanagon Digest - 8 Apr 2015 (#2015-4)
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Gerry-  I tried to confirm wanting to stay on the mailing list, but got a 'cannot deliver' message a little while later.  Hope this gets through.  Keep me....   -Chris Hager 




     On Thursday, April 9, 2015 12:53 AM, Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> wrote:
   


 There are 3 messages totalling 252 lines in this issue.


Topics of the day:


  1. Renewal of your subscription to the vanagon list (2)
  2. Fwd: vanagon: Subscription renewal monitoring report


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Date:    Wed, 8 Apr 2015 17:40:43 -0700
From:    Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Renewal of your subscription to the vanagon list


That was a joke.


Stuart


-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Hoffman [mailto:hhoffman@ip-solutions.net]=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 5:26 PM
To: Stuart MacMillan
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Renewal of your subscription to the vanagon list


Just as a heads up to the "old heads"  who think they have their finger =
on the pulse of online trends...


Mailing lists for as far back as 1997 have sent out notices to list =
members reminding them of their subscription status and how to change =
it.


The default has been to not alter but inform and allow for new =
information to alter the listserv view.


Please let's not lead by anecdote where yours is bigger (or in this case =
older) than mine.


All the best.


Cheers,
Harry
(Who still has a PDP-11 in his basement)


On Apr 8, 2015 8:02 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> You can guess the generation distribution of members here with this =
unique opportunity!  Boomer (know) or Gen X (probably don't). There are =
likely few Millenials (who wouldn't know), they are all on Facebook. ;-) =


>
> You may be a dog on the Internet, but now we'll know if you are an old =
dog.=20
>
> Stuart, old dog.=20
>
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On =
Behalf Of Jim Gmail Arnott=20
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 2:40 PM=20
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM=20
> Subject: Re: Renewal of your subscription to the vanagon list=20
>
> This list is over 20 years old. The listserv software is at least 15 =
years old. It does things in its own (old) fashion. Periodically =
confirming subscriptions seems to be one of those idiosyncrasies.  When =
you receive a CONFIRM request, simply reply (or forward) to =
listserv@gerry.vanagon.com after removing everything from the original =
message except the bottom 3 lines.=20
>
> I forward because my mail client doesn't add quote characters when I =
forward. listserv understands all characters in an email to be commands. =


> Listserv doesn't understand the command "> COMMAND," the ">" character =
confuses it.  Sometimes it gets so confused that it stops reading the =
command string.=20
>
> Just send:=20
>
> // JOB=20
> CONFIRM vanagon=20
> // EOJ=20
>
> to=20
>
> listserv@gerry.vanagon.com=20
>
> and you'll be golden.  You should receive a reply in a few minutes =
that confirms the command's successful execution.=20
>
> Jim=20
>
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: Harry Hoffman=20
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 12:06 PM=20
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM=20
> Subject: Re: [VANAGON] Renewal of your subscription to the vanagon =
list=20
>
>
> I deleted mine as I assumed this list was configured like every other =
listserv out there :-(=20
>
> <snip>=20
> > >> =
-------------------------------------------------------------------=20
> > >> ------=20
> > >> // JOB=20
> > >> CONFIRM vanagon=20
> > >> // EOJ=20
> > >>=20
> > >>=20


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Date:    Wed, 8 Apr 2015 17:52:58 -0700
From:    Jim Arnott <jr.arnott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Fwd: vanagon: Subscription renewal monitoring report


For them that were concerned about the CONFIRM vanagon messages earlier:


> Begin forwarded message:
>=20
> Date: April 8, 2015 at 6:05:45 AM PDT
> From: "L-Soft list server at Vanagon List (1.8d)" =
<LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Subject: vanagon: Subscription renewal monitoring report
> To: Jim Gmail Arnott <jr.arnott@GMAIL.COM>
>=20
> The following 1 subscriber was probed today:
>=20
> redacted
>=20
>=20
> A subscription renewal notice has been sent to the following 756 =
subscribers
> of the vanagon list:
>=20
> that would be almost everyone. Seems like a good way to clear out the =
dead addresses.


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Date:    Wed, 8 Apr 2015 18:23:16 -0700
From:    thewestyman <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Subject: Re: Renewal of your subscription to the vanagon list


I assume to write it in the body and not the subject line.
?Leave the subject line empty?
Zoltan


-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart MacMillan
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 5:40 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Renewal of your subscription to the vanagon list


That was a joke.


Stuart


-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Hoffman [mailto:hhoffman@ip-solutions.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 5:26 PM
To: Stuart MacMillan
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Renewal of your subscription to the vanagon list


Just as a heads up to the "old heads"  who think they have their finger on
the pulse of online trends...


Mailing lists for as far back as 1997 have sent out notices to list members
reminding them of their subscription status and how to change it.


The default has been to not alter but inform and allow for new information
to alter the listserv view.


Please let's not lead by anecdote where yours is bigger (or in this case
older) than mine.


All the best.


Cheers,
Harry
(Who still has a PDP-11 in his basement)


On Apr 8, 2015 8:02 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> You can guess the generation distribution of members here with this unique
> opportunity!  Boomer (know) or Gen X (probably don't). There are likely
> few Millenials (who wouldn't know), they are all on Facebook. ;-)
>
> You may be a dog on the Internet, but now we'll know if you are an old
> dog.
>
> Stuart, old dog.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Jim Gmail Arnott
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 2:40 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Renewal of your subscription to the vanagon list
>
> This list is over 20 years old. The listserv software is at least 15 years
> old. It does things in its own (old) fashion. Periodically confirming
> subscriptions seems to be one of those idiosyncrasies.  When you receive a
> CONFIRM request, simply reply (or forward) to listserv@gerry.vanagon.com
> after removing everything from the original message except the bottom 3
> lines.
>
> I forward because my mail client doesn't add quote characters when I
> forward. listserv understands all characters in an email to be commands.
> Listserv doesn't understand the command "> COMMAND," the ">" character
> confuses it.  Sometimes it gets so confused that it stops reading the
> command string.
>
> Just send:
>
> // JOB
> CONFIRM vanagon
> // EOJ
>
> to
>
> listserv@gerry.vanagon.com
>
> and you'll be golden.  You should receive a reply in a few minutes that
> confirms the command's successful execution.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harry Hoffman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 12:06 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: [VANAGON] Renewal of your subscription to the vanagon list
>
>
> I deleted mine as I assumed this list was configured like every other
> listserv out there :-(
>
> <snip>
> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> ------
> > >> // JOB
> > >> CONFIRM vanagon
> > >> // EOJ
> > >>
> > >>


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