Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 20:18:38 -0400
Reply-To: Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Advice on TD engine problem
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But if I recall correctly each has a different gear that drives the oil
pump in the same direction.
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Jason <uberhare@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gasser runs on toothed side of the belt, diesel runs on the backside
> (smooth) of the belt.
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Ralph Meyermann <ralphmeyermann@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Do the gassers and diesels spin the intermediate shafts and or oil pumps
>> opposite directions?
>> On May 11, 2015 6:03 PM, "kenneth wilford (Van-Again)" <
>> kenwilfy@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > So today I spent the entire day pulling the oil pan, oil pump, vacuum
>> pump,
>> > oil filter, oil filter flange, etc. to see if I could figure out why the
>> > oil isn't building up pressure in this engine. I started off using a
>> > special tool we made to prime the oil system by turning the oil pump
>> > rapidly in a clockwise direction. I had an oil hose attached on the
>> head
>> > and no oil ever came out of it and no pressure was built up. Next I
>> > reinstalled the vacuum pump and started the engine. No oil pressure.
>> > After about 30 seconds I shut it down.
>> > Replaced the oil filter with another one. No difference although the
>> oil
>> > filter was completely full of oil and it was actually empty when I
>> started
>> > out.
>> > Checked for oil pressure at the filter flange. Zero.
>> > Vacuum pump was working when the engine is running.
>> >
>> > Pulled everything apart trying to find something wrong. The oil pump
>> > picked up and pumped oil when I turned it by hand just a few
>> revolutions.
>> > However the hole above the oil pump through the engine block to the oil
>> > filter flange looked dry.
>> > I pulled the oil filter flange just to see if anything there could be
>> > causing it. Everything seemed normal.
>> >
>> > The engine acts like the vacuum pump isn't turning the oil pump. I
>> > installed the vacuum pump as far down as it can go with no oil pump
>> > installed. Then I installed the oil pump with the lower cover removed
>> so I
>> > could be sure that it was engaging the vacuum pump. It seems to be.
>> Then
>> > I reinstalled the oil pump cover and pick up tube.
>> >
>> > I just go done putting everything back together but I am too tired now
>> to
>> > put oil in it and see if I did any good. It is hard to imagine that I
>> did
>> > since everything I took apart looked completely fine. I will try again
>> > tomorrow one more time and if it doesn't work then I am going to have to
>> > return the engine and see if they will warranty it.
>> >
>> > Thanks for all the good advice. Something is screwy with this engine.
>> > Just wish I knew what it was.
>> >
>> > Ken
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:52 AM, sailingfc @dslextreme.com <
>> > sailingfc@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Happy Birthday Ken!
>> > >
>> > > Keep us updated on your progress.
>> > >
>> > > -Dick-
>> > > On May 11, 2015 06:40, "kenneth wilford (Van-Again)" <
>> > kenwilfy@comcast.net>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I took the weekend off since it was my birthday, and I just wanted
>> some
>> > >> time to think and reflect on what was going on. The head gasket is
>> > >> actually on correctly. I am going to make a special tool and prime
>> the
>> > >> heck out of the engine before we try to start it again. The kit came
>> > with
>> > >> a complete motor so I really didn't have to do anything to it. I did
>> > >> install the oil filter dry because it is on a pretty steep angle and
>> I
>> > >> didn't want to spill oil everywhere. Maybe that is one of the
>> reasons
>> > why
>> > >> the engine is taking a long time to prime and pump up oil. The
>> filter
>> > is
>> > >> full now (checked it) so something must be happening. I'll let you
>> > folks
>> > >> know the final results are. Hopefully all will end well.
>> > >>
>> > >> Ken
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Ralph Meyermann <
>> > >> ralphmeyermann@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Any progress on this issue
>> > >> > On May 10, 2015 7:20 AM, "Ralph Meyermann" <
>> ralphmeyermann@gmail.com>
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > And did you order and supply all the parts?
>> > >> > > On May 10, 2015 6:54 AM, "Ralph Meyermann" <
>> > ralphmeyermann@gmail.com>
>> > >> > > wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >> Ken, I know that you are a pretty sharp fellow. I'm am going to
>> > ask a
>> > >> > few
>> > >> > >> questions that are not meant to insult anyone. How much of the
>> > engine
>> > >> > did
>> > >> > >> the builder assemble? Is it at stock diesel vanagon engine
>> angle?
>> > >> > >> On May 9, 2015 2:42 PM, "Karl Mullendore" <
>> > tdiguru@westyventures.com
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>> The gasket should appear as this and same direction, left end
>> of
>> > the
>> > >> > >>> photos is
>> > >> > >>> the belt end:
>> > >> > >>> http://www.partsplaceinc.com/products/product-detail.aspx?
>> > >> > >>> keyword=VW+turbo+diesel+3+notch+head+gasket28-103-383&sku=16667
>> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Thanks,
>> > >> Ken Wilford
>> > >> John 3:16
>> > >> www.vanagain.com
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> > Ken Wilford
>> > John 3:16
>> > www.vanagain.com
>> >
>>
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