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Date:         Wed, 13 May 2015 20:10:07 -0700
Reply-To:     Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Ignition/starter switch failures
Comments: To: Gene P <olgreywoof@gmail.com>
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Gene -

What Ken said. These aren't seconds or leftover production runs. It's a Volkswagen trademark issue that manufacturers have to address when selling original parts they sell to the aftermarket.

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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Gene P <olgreywoof@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:18 AM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) < > kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote: > How you can tell the difference between a low quality switch and the best > one you can get is > that the good ones have a black base and you can actually see where the OE > VW logo was ground off. These are currently being sold as Kostal brand. > > ... Ken, would you say more about what's going on with these? I got one of > the black & white switches awhile back and wondered about the lack of any > identifying logo or packaging, and that grinding mark where something was > removed. Why was the VW logo removed? If they are leftovers unbranded and > sold as something else, why? > > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:18 AM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) < > kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Ed, you want to get the best quality switch you can. How you can tell > the > > difference between a low quality switch and the best one you can get is > > that the good ones have a black base and you can actually see where the > OE > > VW logo was ground off. These are currently being sold as Kostal brand. > > We have them in stock at the moment, although a couple of years ago they > > were being difficult to get and people were supplying whatever they could > > get their hands on. > > > > If you are installing one of these nice units and still having problems > > then I would suggest that there is an electrical problem that is frying > > your switches. Sometimes if the mechanical part of the switch is worn > out > > (the key part) it can allow enough play to break the switch because it > > allows the mechanical part to move off center. > > > > If that isn't the problem then dissect the old switch (popping it apart) > > and you should be able to see what part is frying and then use the wiring > > diagram to investigate that circuit. > > > > Let me know if we can be of service. > > > > Ken Wilford > > John 3:16 > > www.vanagain.com > > > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Ed McLean <email99@bellsouth.net> > wrote: > > > > > Over the last year I have had 3 ignition/starter switch (111 905 865L) > > > failures after not having but 3 failures in the preceding 22 years, all > > > with the same Vanagon. > > > > > > Has the quality of these electrical switches declined? They look just > > > like they always have. > > > > > > I haven't changed the load on the switch with recent modifications or > > > component replacements except for the starter so I don't think they are > > > being overloaded. Does the gear drive TDI Jetta Bosch starter draw > more > > > current for solenoid activation than the original late Vanagon starter? > > > > > > Maybe I have just gotten a bad batch of switches? > > > > > > Is there a particular brand of switches to steer clear of or is there a > > > brand that is superior to others? One of these that failed was Meyle > > > brand and another was a premium priced one from Worldpac. Does anyone > > > have any experience with NAPA's Altrom brand" > > > > > > Thanks for any and all comments. > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > Ken Wilford > > John 3:16 > > www.vanagain.com > > >


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