Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 21:00:55 -0400
Reply-To: Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: One more shady boy comment
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I don't see the F1 listed online, but it is similar to F45 and seems to
share alot of parts. Mine came from Germany attached to the vehicle.
Jason
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:57 PM, John Goubeaux <john@ucsb.edu> wrote:
> Guys, sorry if I missed this in earlier posts, but what is the Fiamma
> model you are all referring to ? Someone mentioned the "1" but I do not
> find it on their product list.
>
> Thanks -john
>
>
> On 5/28/15 2:06 PM, Jason wrote:
>
>> Any awning can be destroyed or damaged by wind if not setup correctly.
>> The
>> Fiamma is just as sturdy in wind if you remember to peg it down! The feet
>> both have holes for this.
>>
>> Love the Fiamma, wouldn't give up it. I would spend the money for a
>> replacement if I had to.
>>
>> Jason
>> LT31 Florida (The big westy)
>>
>> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Rocket J Squirrel <
>> camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> And what Bill says below exactly affirms my preference for the Shady Boy.
>>>
>>> The Fiamma goes up quickly and easily. The Shady Boy requires a bit of
>>> setup. But it can be done by one, and for this camper, setting up camp
>>> is one of the pleasures of camping.
>>>
>>> The Fiamma can be quickly destroyed by unexpected gusts or heavy
>>> precipitation. Probably smart to crank it back overnight if any weather
>>> weirdness is expected. For the Shady Boy, one has to learn the tricks to
>>> rig it for the conditions (as Tom Buese also commented on earlier in
>>> this thread), but once up, it's nearly bullet-proof.
>>>
>>> As I've said earlier, I've sat under my Shady Boy -- and a few times had
>>> to escape into the van -- during stunningly-heavy hailstorms,
>>> thundershower, and great gusts of wind that have knocked camp furniture
>>> over . . . and it's weathered it all.
>>>
>>> But you have to know how to rig it.
>>>
>>> My feeling is that the Fiamma is good for your weekend camper who
>>> desires less fussing with poles and ropes and stakes. But for a fellow
>>> like me, who camps in secluded, solitary places for two weeks at a time,
>>> something robust is what I like and the Shady Boy does the job.
>>>
>>> Next time someone says that they've seen Shady Boys being blown about by
>>> the wind, just know that what they witnessed is not a properly set-up
>>> Shady Boy, and ignore them.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
>>> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
>>> Bend, Ore.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/28/2015 09:24 AM, William Monk wrote:
>>>
>>> I have had my fiamma awning for over ten years. Twice the rear arm was
>>>> destroyed. Once when new and a sudden micro burst broke it. The second
>>>> time
>>>> in North Dakota after a 3am hail storm. I couldn't get out fast enough.
>>>> Both time I didn't have a front corner dipped low enough. Simple lever
>>>> to
>>>> adjust. My fault. Parts came quick and priced very reasonable within
>>>> days
>>>> to repair it.
>>>> I love the 2 minute set up. It doesn't have any crank or "clock" spring
>>>> set
>>>> up. Very basic F85 model.
>>>> But, Alistair drilling holes in your van..I don't know about you
>>>> sometimes?
>>>>
>>>> Bill M
>>>> 87 Westy
>>>> Zetec Turbo
>>>> On May 28, 2015 11:22 AM, "Alistair Bell" <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The recent talk about the pros and cons of the shady boy reminded me
>>>> of a
>>>>
>>>>> long outstanding fix I wanted to make to mine.
>>>>>
>>>>> The stock attachment method for the stainless steel minting brackets to
>>>>> the van is using stainless sheet metal screws. Leaving aside the
>>>>> contentious :-) aspect of drilling holes into your van, I never loved
>>>>> the
>>>>> sheet metal screws and I have noticed them loosening.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the other day I drilled out the holes in the van to accept 1/4-20
>>>>> riv-nut inserts. My particular inserts fit tightly in holes drilled
>>>>> with
>>>>> letter drill S.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also cut some neoprene foam gaskets to go between the bracket and the
>>>>> van and long enough to wrap around the end of the bracket where it
>>>>> bears
>>>>> against the rain gutter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now with the insets and 1/4-20 stainless bolts the brackets are
>>>>> securely
>>>>> mounted to the van.
>>>>>
>>>>> One more thing, with the sheet metal screws I had slathered on rtv
>>>>> silicone sealant between the bracket and the van. I left that off with
>>>>> the
>>>>> foam gasket change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alistair
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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