Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 06:52:02 -0700
Reply-To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: End of the list? Was Re: Rear axle torque specs?
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Since this thread is about the list now....
The Archives here aren't working when I have tried them (have not tried
in months). I get good information gathering from the List using Google
Search rather than the formal archives, which I can never find...My second
'go to' choice for information is You Tube. That site usually has an
adequate menu of videos on almost everything about every vehicle..
Facebook as an information source?...maybe as a place for someone to
gather and make money from YOUR information.
It would be nice to have an easier way to post pictures here, but I 'get'
that it causes problems and that people who take care of the list do not
want the chore of making that work..
One of my morning habits is to fire up the lap top (or my phone if I am
camping) put on the coffee and sit down to start my day with Gerry and all
you zany vanagon folks...If I am looking for specific information I google
for it. When I simply want to be entertained, I pop over here and see what
silly stuff has been 'said' since my last visit....Web Forums don't seem to
fill that bill as well....
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
> Still holding out for pictures directly in the list. You can have them
> automatically taken down at a specified time after posting so that space
> isn't an issue. I'm pretty sure the list will be around, FB is a great way
> to socialize but a horrible way to find and access information.
>
> Jim
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:21 AM Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > I can't abide Facebook, don't use it, never have, though I once signed on
> > at the urging of an acquaintance. Found it not to my taste.
> >
> > I would not like to see this list disappear. Though I do not have the
> > knowledge or skills of so many others on here, I very much enjoy learning
> > from the conversation here, and sharing what I can regards those things I
> > do know about -- mainly to do with camping and traveling with my beast.
> >
> > So, let's keep it alive, and encourage others. Pictures? Alll one needs
> > to do is post a link, and the pictures are there. What's wrong with
> that?
> > Besides, exercising one's descriptive skills and applying spatial
> > imagination to other's descriptions is a part of the fun in life.
> >
> > mcneely
> >
> > ---- Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > > There should always be a place for an old school list like this. I
> > joined in
> > > 2000, and learned a lot after owning my '84 for fourteen years (bought
> > it in
> > > '86). I'm now on my second, an '85 bought in 2012 after adventures
> with
> > a
> > > '97 EVC between the two.
> > >
> > > I think the core of veterans can keep it going, and I hope some of the
> > Gen
> > > Xers and younger will at least lurk. But this can be an intimidating
> > place,
> > > it's just easier to post a photo or five to FB and get a conversation
> > going.
> > > I understand that, but this is the important knowledge base with folks
> > like
> > > you, Dennis, Scott, David, Ken, Neil, Ben, OlRivrRat, Felder, Jeff,
> Mark
> > > Drillock the beach bum, and many others, including our vendors, have
> > built.
> > > (Mark needs to post some photos somewhere, maybe on FB.)
> > >
> > > It's "institutional knowledge" that cannot be replaced. And, it's all
> in
> > > the archives, which are easily searchable.
> > >
> > > "Live on Vanagon dot com!"
> > >
> > > Stuart
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alistair Bell [mailto:albell@shaw.ca]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:39 PM
> > > To: Stuart MacMillan
> > > Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > > Subject: End of the list? Was Re: Rear axle torque specs?
> > >
> > >
> > > I know I was teasing you Stuart, but you've raised good points that
> have
> > > been raised before and I guess really should be addressed now.
> > >
> > > Personally, I don't like Facebook, but I understand how it works well
> for
> > > many people. I like this list, the samba, and some European fora that I
> > peek
> > > in on.
> > >
> > > I have a strong sentimental and yes, rational, attachment to this
> mailing
> > > list and I would hate to see it end. I think I subscribed back in late
> > 93 or
> > > early 94, and it has been as much a part of my vanagon life as anything
> > > else.
> > >
> > > But I would hate to see it end up as just a few folk talking into the
> > dark.
> > >
> > > Alistair
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jun 3, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Alistair,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, no doubt. We are probably the last three members left--only
> > > > David, you and me now. Maybe BenT to make four. Call this the "last
> > > straw thread."
> > > >
> > > > Pictures? Who needs stinkin' pictures when you can read text and
> > > > visualize complex mechanical systems and concepts!!! Or not.
> > > >
> > > > Keeps your brain working as you get older. I hope so anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Even my son with his '87 Westy won't join this group, he's on the FB.
> > > > Just as well or I'd probably embarrass him.
> > > >
> > > > I wish it was Friday, I have a bit of a surprise for the mods. Stay
> > > tuned.
> > > >
> > > > Stuart
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> > > > Behalf Of Alistair Bell
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 6:32 PM
> > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > > Subject: Re: Rear axle torque specs?
> > > >
> > > > Playing with the spare set of hubs, housings, and stub axles in the
> > > > mess I call my workshop, I notice the radial play of the hub on the
> > > > stub axle diminishes as the hub fetches up against the ramps at the
> > > > end of the grooves in the stub axle.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose I should assemble a unit minus the bearing housing and see
> > > > if the hub comes up onto the ramps. But I can't be bothered pressing
> > > > on, then off, the bearings.
> > > >
> > > > Hey Stuart, did I push more members to Facebook?
> > > >
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > Alistair
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Jun 3, 2015, at 12:58 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> At 01:02 PM 6/3/2015, OlRivrRat wrote:
> > > >>> AnyOne care to discuss just what might cause the Spacer to
> > > >>> Wear Shorter ~
> > > >>
> > > >> Whatever moves against another surface will wear, evenly or with one
> > > >> sacrificial to the other (paradixically, the harder surface tends to
> > > >> sacrifice to the softer). I don't see the spacer as being in any
> > > >> particular danger unless its composition is such that it moves and
> > > >> wears preferentially to everything else in the assembly, which could
> > > >> be. Even so, I think that the splines getting beaten up on axle and
> > > >> hub will be the major issue, not longitudinal wear. Ideally those
> > > >> splines would exist only as a safety backup, but whether or not that
> > > >> applies here impact loading on them has to be kept to a minimum so
> > > >> they don't beat each other out of shape. leading to an accelerating
> > > >> cycle of increasing clearances leading to increased impact loads.
> It
> > > >> would be simpler if they were loaded only in one direction, but they
> > > >> have to handle decelerating and reverse-gear loads as well.
> > > >>
> > > >> Yours,
> > > >> David
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > David McNeely
> >
>
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